Monster ARK: Hunting Evolved official petition to bring the mod back.

[Shadlos]

This is the same post i made on the discord:

Finally motivated by the potential of at least 1/5 of a million people being affected by capcom's decision to DMCA Monster ARK: Hunting Evolved, I have finally made the official petition for Capcom to rethink their decision on the DMCA/Cease and Desist. I have made a polite and formal sounding petition which simply tells capcom that "The names on this list politely request you reconsider your options, and that even if you stand by them, we accept your stand and thank you for at least listening to us". The petition is here. This is not the infamous "boycott Monster Hunter Stories to avenge Monster ARK!" scenario that has been going on. As mod community manager i official condemn this act and anybody who officially participates in the boycott.

Instead i encourage you all to participate in this polite request instead. If we show capcom some respect and mature behavior, i feel they're more likely to listen to us.

In any regard, here's the link. Please sign it and show your support:
https://www.change.org/p/capcom-request-for-capcom-to-allow-garuga123-permission-to-make-monster-ark-hunting-evolved?recruiter=731334335&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

Even if we fail, thank you for supporting the mod and Garuga123 as a mod maker and content creator.

If we scream and act like children, threatening to boycott a game to get Capcom's attention, then it's highly unlikely this will go unnoticed.

But if we show how we truly feel with respect to capcom, we should be able to get their attention.

Remember that we are asking Capcom to reconsider, not demanding or threatening, and we respect their decision to do so in the end and remain loyal fans.

Once again, thank you for supporting the mod and Garuga123

[Tasfariel]

nice idea , but when it wont help , make a own monster hunter mod with other names , little changed on the monsters with color or something. And other thinks.. i think that is a good idea for the future ^.~

[Ms. Spentyouth]

引用自 Dinoman9877：

1. Capcom has had no issue with people using their creatures in the past. In fact, they have praised many fan made creations.

The facts of those other cases matter with regards to Fair Use. There's a lot of ways to use this content that doesn't conflict with Capcom's interests.

2. This mod was not made for monetary gain.

This will be considered, but isn't the most important factor. For instance, if someone is making their own Batman comics and giving them away, the fact that no money changed hands doesn't help much for a Fair Use argument.

3. Fair use is the protection of peoples to use content from others for non-profit gain.

Fair Use also covers use of content in a for-profit matter: for instance a professional movie reviewer showing a small clip of the film as an example of what you're likely to see if you buy the ticket.

引用自 simon：

Fair use covers things like images in videos not 3d models and textures etc. You cannot use assests created by someone, without there permision, in your own work.

Its a simple concept.

Fair Use covers all usable intellectual property, and that includes models, textures, and other game assets. I could post a cropped or downscaled texture taken from Monster Hunter, and as long as I was doing it as an example, or to make a point about something, it could be considered Fair Use. If I posted a full size HD texture without any sort of commentary, then chances are I'm merely distributing it without permission.

[simon]

@ Ms. Spentyouth.

I'm sure you will agree that using an artists models etc in your mod from another game (commercial at that) does not fall within fair use.

[Ms. Spentyouth]

引用自 simon：

@ Ms. Spentyouth.

I'm sure you will agree that using an artists models etc in your mod from another game (commercial at that) does not fall within fair use.

I don't think something like Monster Ark is anywhere close to Fair Use.

[Paintbrush Poltergeist]

Capcom wont listen to it.

[shayne.oneill]

The *only* way for this mod to be allowed, is for the mods author to get written permission to license the parts he needs. Capcom has a legal duty to their shareholders to protect their intellectual property because unenforced IP can turn into a loss of IP in the courts. It sucks but thats just how the laws work. If its popular enough it may well be possible for wildcard to strike up a cross promotion deal to cover it, but I'm not sure whats in it for either developer to justify expensive negotiations.

And no, taking assets from one game to use in another wouldn't be fair use in any courtroom

[devilkingx2]

couldn't the modder just remake his own imitation versions of the models and textures (or have someone else do it for him) and have essentially the same mod but without violation of copyright

[Echo]

With all due respect, as much as I want to see the mod back, change.org petition's generally don't do anything, and are usually ignored by companies.

We'll take a scenario that happened recently, the GTA modding ban. There were 2 things happening to do something about it, a change.org petition, which many signed, and the noise the community made over it. Needless to say, T2 and R* gave mods back, but not because of the petition, it was because of all the negative reviews and refunds that people caused.

Now, I'm not saying you should boycott Capcom for this, I'm just saying that change.org generally doesn't do anything in these scenarios. If you really want the mod back, here's something you could try (it might not work, but it's better than doing nothing). Message Capcom and ask them directly to reconsider their copyright claim. If enough people give them good reasons to give the mod back, then they might listen to us and bring it back, but remember, they have the last say in whether is comes back or goes forever. It's their content, it's their decision on who uses it.

On another note, it was a shame that they did this, it was the one thing that was making me think of getting ARK

[heroicidiot]

NECRO

[blipzero]

capcom is after any one that is apart of this in~fact thy are think that all mods are a hack and All Intents and Purposes see is as theft and will prosecute to take all thy can from any and all ! Fair Use is a lie it is a way to get new ideas with out having to pay look at Bethesda and all the mods thy now say are theres and the mod makers have no claim to there work as of the bilines of buying games and or useing the bace codeing of the mods !

[Nyxborne]

I just think its funny that you believe capcim pulled rug. On a video from Riot, the mod author even said that he did not create the models but directly ported them over. He even said that the modeler themself contacted and asked to remove it since the author stole his models in the first place. If this were to get revived then the mod author needs to put work to creating the models himself instead of porting it over since that is considered intellectual property.

[Shadlos]

Dude you're really beating a dead horse at this rate ._.

The mod petition was closed several months back, and mod's been all but forgotten right now. Just let it die in peace i guess.