Tribes with 300+ too strong

[Fern]

Will devs please do something about tribes with hundreds of members? its impossible to fight them off once they come after your server and its no fun fighting them knowing you have no chance of winning.
Even whne you push them off your server they come back the next week and hit you again and again until you can't fight anymore due to fatigue.
Its starting to damage the game right now as there is no way to hurt the largest tribes, they just max pop any server you try to attack within seconds and wipe you out.

This is not fair, some of the best pvpe'rs at ark i know are starting to quit because you can't compete with overwhelming numbers no matter how good you are or how many of thier dinos and gear you kill and take from them.
If something is not done and soon a large number of tribes will begin to quit ark. Ive already been on the recieving end several times against 300+ tribes and there is no way to win. no matter how well you fight.

Don't forget to look after your players health. staying up 24/7 multiple days in a row can cause health problems.

the guys on one of the servers spartans are hitting have been fighting nonstop for 30+ hours at this point. its not right.

[Hedgie]

Ugh. Devs please remove guns, dinos with teeth, explosives, drowning and fall damage. Its not fair that I die

[123]

I would be really down with a max player per and max player per alliance cluster. maybe max player per tribe / alliance at 20. make like 10 servers of each type in a cluster (island / center/ SE) .. just like when the center maps came out, i bet it would be the new meta

[⚔️☠Reaper☠⚔]

I actually stumbled upon the streamer by accident thats this is going on right now oc 131 , some of the names looked familiar so i continued to watch it . From the info ive seen it lines up to the same tribe that has been known to dupe on a center server (one admitted it while bragging to others in teamspeak) so hopefully they do get wiped out on this server too, toxic bunch they and their allies are .

[Kaprodonychus]

Just wanted to pop in say that no matter what you do whether it's limiting the amount of people in a tribe or limit how many alliances you can have, none of that will matter. They will just all group up no matter what you guys do and will attack.

"But Kapro, their animals and weapons will be hurting eachother"

Thats not stopping them from going in one wave at a time.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by ุ:

I would be really down with a max player per and max player per alliance cluster. maybe max player per tribe / alliance at 20. make like 10 servers of each type in a cluster (island / center/ SE) .. just like when the center maps came out, i bet it would be the new meta

No way to enforce it, they could just not ally and still have the same goals.
Even without data transfer if 300 players just started on your server you wont beat that combined time online/amount of players working for 1 goal.

If anything it helps the devs aswell, it forces more people to unnoficial where you dont see this as often, which will help kill official and be 1 less cost for the devs to pay(hosting fees etc).

They could make it harder of course, but thatll be more work trying to prevent it when it cant be stopped, all you can do is make it slightly more annoying to achieve what they can already achieve.

You cant really stop it.

Even if its not one of these large groups, itll be a larger group then yours.
How big is too big?

Lets say there are 30 of you, a tribe/alliance of 60 can do the same, hell a tribe of 10 could wipe out a 30.

Big numbers, people who can play more hours then you etc, this is never a game that will be fair.

Every mechanic you can set in place to stop it, itll happen again in a new way.
Apart from maybe playing on a whitelisted server.

If you have any ideas how im sure i could point out how it wont work or could be worked around.

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by Batman:

Ugh. Devs please remove guns, dinos with teeth, explosives, drowning and fall damage. Its not fair that I die

There is a difference between fair and unfair difficulty. Difficulty you can do NOTHING about is unfair.

The things you listed are things you can deal with. Getting mobbed by ~300 players who max-pop the server so that even if you DO Have allies they can't get on to help you....that's another story.

Please do not make stupid comparisons.

[endi]

300 players in one tribe ??? wich kind of server are you plaing on ?

[Hedgie]

Originally posted by fractalgem:

Originally posted by Batman:

Ugh. Devs please remove guns, dinos with teeth, explosives, drowning and fall damage. Its not fair that I die

There is a difference between fair and unfair difficulty. Difficulty you can do NOTHING about is unfair.

The things you listed are things you can deal with. Getting mobbed by ~300 players who max-pop the server so that even if you DO Have allies they can't get on to help you....that's another story.

Please do not make stupid comparisons.

The comparison? Whinging. Thats what im reading.

Ark is political also mate. Spartans dont walk into server 1234 and wipe for the fun of it. They will attack a server if its allied with an enemy tribe. Ark is very much a war game with the current cross transfer mechanics. You want to build big, you better know where your alpha stands and with who.

[maestro]

These massive criminal orginizations that seem to dominate this game.. I mean in the game... Is there any kind of servers that let people just play normally or is it basically a big hegemony? (give them a moment to wiki that word)

Just curious. I plan to stay in SP. No plan to socialize any time soon.

[Hawken]

Originally posted by Maestro4202:

These massive criminal orginizations that seem to dominate this game.. I mean in the game... Is there any kind of servers that let people just play normally or is it basically a big hegemony? (give them a moment to wiki that word)

Just curious. I plan to stay in SP. No plan to socialize any time soon.

If your going SP then dont worry about it. When you go multiplayer UNoffical would be the way to go to avoid it for the most part.

[xerrio]

Shout-out to dev team:
I have solutions as a solo player myself. As I consider ARK like a first-person RTS :

• Disallow transfers between PvP servers. (PvE is less subject to this kind of attacks but for consistency it could be also done there)
  
• Suppressing the existence of random blueprints falling from the sky by the will of god (what is more random than that? What can I do to counter my neighbour's ascendant stuff if I have max journeyman because I was unlucky? And what is the point to theorycraft a good engram tree like in any RTS if I can just loot them randomly?)
  
• Removing the experience sharing between tribe members (1 pro and 20 idiots can surpass 2 pros with that dumb system)
  
• Wipe/Redo mechanic of Extinction servers added to classic PvP servers with a longer timer or a different mechanic (and I think it is actually comming with the new "ascension" game-mechanic / story-mode)
  
• Ressource gathering and taming x2 (yes, again. Players health matter, we need to sleep. Also, lazy huge tribes will get lazier and hard-working smaller tribes will get rewarded.)
  
• Adding more rules to PvE to transform these servers in more RP servers

[Sesame]

The 131 seige is into its 4th day at this point.48 hours of shooting killing and fighting and continuing. attackers have not dropped below 20 the whole time.
both sides accusing eachother of duping.
ban them all imo.

[Archie]

"Players health matters" What the actual ♥♥♥♥ LOL. Who is forcing anyone to be on 24/7? If you choose to play in a specific way that results in that, why are you playing that way?

[xerrio]

Originally posted by ArchXDiablo:

"Players health matters" What the actual ♥♥♥♥ LOL. Who is forcing anyone to be on 24/7? If you choose to play in a specific way that results in that, why are you playing that way?

To keep up with tribes playing 24/7

[Shrek The Ogre]

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