Mega Tribe blocking everything

[Roblox Bodybuilder]

So this tribe on our server controls most of the island. They have 2 mega uber bases that i know of. One base is next to the green obelisk, and the other is on the big ice burg. And then they have every single obelisk blocked by autoturrets. Every cave is blocked off by gates and auto turrets. This makes so many areas inaccessable. I am on a PvP server.

So, i would like to know the best way to get around their defences to get into caves. The central cave is the only one that isnt blocked by auto turrets, but it still has a gate there. The problem is that my tribe leader doesn't want us messing with thier bases and whatever else. He doesn't want them coming to our base and stomping on us. They could easily bring a few gigas and whatever else they wanted.

If i were to destroy the one gate with c4 that blocks the central cave, would that tell the mega tribe that my tribe destroyed their gate? or would it just tell them that the gate was destroyed and then me and my tribe get to remain anonymous?

I would like some help here on what i should do because the mega tribe is really getting on my nerves with their blockage. They dont seem to be total d-i-c-k-s however, since they dont wipe our bases or anything like that. They just block everything.

[Honey]

if you dont kill any dinos or players of them in any way they wont notice who it was.
But take care not to kill a dino or player!

[Hedgie]

Sounds like the megatribe is protecting the server, and thus you, from invasions. Cross transfers have changed Ark. No longer is a base a home of a tribe, but the entire server. Frankly, you are lucky that the megatribe hasnt wiped you.

[sal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Ask them for the pin?

[Smooth Operator]

What is the gate made of? Metal?

[DarthaNyan]

Originally posted by Morningstar:

What is the gate made of? Metal?

Shouldnt matter - they will take 6x damage anyway.

[0xDEFACED]

Originally posted by Batman:

Frankly, you are lucky that the megatribe hasnt wiped you.

THIS. is what is wrong with this *** game.

[Hedgie]

Originally posted by 0xDEFACED:

Originally posted by Batman:

Frankly, you are lucky that the megatribe hasnt wiped you.

THIS. is what is wrong with this *** game.

it's not really. Cross transfer means he can happily go to another server. Let me guess, you are from a scrub tribe or a solo RPer and can't compete with those who play more/smarter and you want it to be all vanilla so you dont die?

PVP game will have PVP consequences. Megatribe looks after their interests just like you would look after your own.

[poky]

Isnt damage shown in tribe log nowdays.

[Hedgie]

No, just says destroyed. Only a Dino/player death will list who killed it

[0xDEFACED]

Originally posted by Batman:

Originally posted by 0xDEFACED:

THIS. is what is wrong with this *** game.

it's not really. Cross transfer means he can happily go to another server. Let me guess, you are from a scrub tribe or a solo RPer and can't compete with those who play more/smarter and you want it to be all vanilla so you dont die?

PVP game will have PVP consequences. Megatribe looks after their interests just like you would look after your own.

I am not even surprised by this reply. I for one do not care about the multiplayer (PVP) aspect of the game, but i did play this with friends, on my own server. I dont have problem with difficulty, i have problem with a pyramid scheme that if someone joins a server, you know...to have fun are completely at the good will of the alpha tribe. And there is nothing you can do about it. By pyramid scheme i mean that the sooner you start on a server, the more advantage you will have, regardless of the playstyle.

Let me guess, you are from a scrub tribe or a solo RPer and can't compete with those who play more/smarter

How would i compete with others if im playing solo?

This is why i am playing with friends in a coop way... Forgive me but i dont see the appeal on putting my time and effort in the hands of a player that wipes half/emtore the server because his pet dino got killed by a random encounter.


Ninja edit: PVP is not PVP when it is so one sided that there is nothing one can do about it - You dont talk about "fight" in a Boot vs Ant scenario
for the record, i have never played on actual multiplayer, i have read stories about what happened to other people, , and so i was even more so playing on mp servers.

Which is fine, i like to tweak the settings to my liking anyway, so im not missing out, nor i feel myself "scrub" because my favorite color is different

[Hedgie]

Originally posted by 0xDEFACED:

Originally posted by Batman:

it's not really. Cross transfer means he can happily go to another server. Let me guess, you are from a scrub tribe or a solo RPer and can't compete with those who play more/smarter and you want it to be all vanilla so you dont die?

PVP game will have PVP consequences. Megatribe looks after their interests just like you would look after your own.

I am not even surprised by this reply. I for one do not care about the multiplayer (PVP) aspect of the game, but i did play this with friends, on my own server. I dont have problem with difficulty, i have problem with a pyramid scheme that if someone joins a server, you know...to have fun are completely at the good will of the alpha tribe. And there is nothing you can do about it. By pyramid scheme i mean that the sooner you start on a server, the more advantage you will have, regardless of the playstyle.

Let me guess, you are from a scrub tribe or a solo RPer and can't compete with those who play more/smarter

How would i compete with others if im playing solo?

This is why i am playing with friends in a coop way... Forgive me but i dont see the appeal on putting my time and effort in the hands of a player that wipes half/emtore the server because his pet dino got killed by a random encounter.


Ninja edit: PVP is not PVP when it is so one sided that there is nothing one can do about it - You dont talk about "fight" in a Boot vs Ant scenario
for the record, i have never played on actual multiplayer, i have read stories about what happened to other people, , and so i was even more so playing on mp servers.

Which is fine, i like to tweak the settings to my liking anyway, so im not missing out, nor i feel myself "scrub" because my favorite color is different

I just get sick and tired of the alpha hate because they are more powerful. If you dont want to fight other players, go play PVE, or like you did, go host your own server. No doubt, some Alphas are bastards, but wanting to get rid of of alphas is just as achievable as world peace. There will always be an alpha. And most Alpha's protect the servers smaller inhabitants from extraserver raiders.

Now personally, the things I enjoy most out of ark is the growing and creation of better dino lines, better bases (forced by PVP threats) etc. Im not into the whole, join a server, wipe and move on, but I do enjoy the occasional raid. Frankly if an alpha is wiping you, they dont want you there, move on. They want a different thing out of the game than you, yet you want them to play your style by not attacking you.

[Well Butter my Biscuit]

Why are you playing PVP if you do not intend to pvp? Move on to unofficial or pve, problem solved.

[0xDEFACED]

Originally posted by Batman:

I just get sick and tired of the alpha hate because they are more powerful. If you dont want to fight other players, go play PVE, or like you did, go host your own server. No doubt, some Alphas are bastards, but wanting to get rid of of alphas is just as achievable as world peace. There will always be an alpha. And most Alpha's protect the servers smaller inhabitants from extraserver raiders.

Exoserver raiders could be balanced in so many ways...
Yes, some alphas as juvenile, but even of those that are not in the beginning, many of them grow itchy if they see that a previously new player is growing steadily. How many times ive heard of stories that alphas were friendly in the beginning, they even gave people free stuff, but as they grew, they started to make up random rules - dont go there, dont do this, only mine when xyz, and only THERE (and only THAT much) etc. And you cant even do anything about it, because they can just leave their pets on agressive mode, and good luck trying to do anything about them...

Regardless of intentions, it is still a ♥♥♥♥ system when if a guy has a bad day they (or just him, solely can wipe your progress entirely, because they felt like it or got angry and wanted to let off steam.

Obviously i am not affected, nor I ever was by this, and i never will, because i refuse(d) to play on public because of this.

Originally posted by Batman:

Now personally, the things I enjoy most out of ark is the growing and creation of better dino lines, better bases (forced by PVP threats) etc. Im not into the whole, join a server, wipe and move on, but I do enjoy the occasional raid. Frankly if an alpha is wiping you, they dont want you there, move on. They want a different thing out of the game than you, yet you want them to play your style by not attacking you.

While i agree with you that you have plenty...and i mean plenty of servers to choose from (to move to), how many times one has to hop before they find a good server?

And this is a legit question, because i dont know how much of a gamble it is to find a good one, and to be able to actually set foot in one without the fear of extinction 40+ hours into the server...

Also, "if an alpha is wiping you they dont want you there" - why do i have to move because some juvenile ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ doesnt like my face?

Again, PVP is only PVP where you have a chance, You dont call a one sided fight a fight, you call it a beating

[Roblox Bodybuilder]

ok thanks for the help and opinions guys. The other tribes on our server are as big as us, so it is pvp between us, which makes the game really really fun. But there is of course the mega tribe. I can see some of your points where they are probably protecting us from other people transferring stuff over to our server, but at the same time they are blocking all of the caves, and then they have vaults at beacon locations so you cant really access them. Thier tribe leader is fairly nice and he might let me into a cave, but last time our tribe asked they didnt actually open up the cave. Sometimes they fly over to our base just to talk. The only thing we have to fear is the fact that if we kill one of their dinos or players, it is a possibility that they would want to destroy us for it. And they would have the easiest time destroying us. Their tribe is big enough to the point that they could probably slowly wipe the server from any tribe.

[Spine]

Originally posted by Batman:

Sounds like the megatribe is protecting the server, and thus you, from invasions. Cross transfers have changed Ark. No longer is a base a home of a tribe, but the entire server. Frankly, you are lucky that the megatribe hasnt wiped you.

This^^

Adapt or die
Diplomacy is now your best course of action.

Regardless of how you feel about it, if you are a threat to the stabilaty of your server, then your days are numbered.

The alpha tribe is far more concerned about cross ark transfers, if they dont or cant trust you, then they have no choice but to stop you growing.