Basilosaurus Taming Undone for no reason?!?

[JamieDaNerdKing]

So as the title suggests I've been taming myself a Basilosaurus for sea adventures. Its a level 145 Male and I've spent about an hour taming it (I'm on singleplayer and have taming set to times 3 and no mods installed.) But all of a sudden as I'm approaching the last bit to tame it, the taming bar starts rapidly decreasing with no explaination (Took about a minute to decrease back to zero). I didn't hit it and made sure that no other creatures were nearby to interupt me, and I made sure to stick close by and feed it regularly (Continued to decrease even while I fed it again), so I'm stumped. I've successfully tamed two Basilosaurus' perviously without a hitch so its not a problem with the creature itself rather that its this one specifically. WHAT DID I DO WRONG? ;_;

[Housatonic]

An hour actively taming it, on x3? I never timed mine, but that sounds like my x1 rates. Maybe too much time passed between feedings?

[JamieDaNerdKing]

Housatonic の投稿を引用：

An hour actively taming it, on x3? I never timed mine, but that sounds like my x1 rates. Maybe too much time passed between feedings?

Well during that time I had to deal with an alpha raptor that was getting a bit close as well as some nosy megalodons and mantas. Trust me, I'm surprised none of them accidentially hit the Basilosaurus I was taming, but perhaps the delay betweem feeding and fighting off threats, while only about 30-50 seconds longer (I had a basilosaurus already that was a great defender) that might have thrown it off.

Z0mbie_Juggernaut の投稿を引用：

You did nothing wrong... The Basilosaurus taming mechanics are broken. I can't get them to take a second mutton or kibble or anything at all. I've waited for over an hour several times on a 10x taming server. It's gotta be broken.

I actually read on the wiki that feeding it mutton or kibble actually makes the taming process much longer and as such isn't worth it. I feed mine a mix of normal and prime raw meat and it takes about 20 seconds or so before its ready to eat another bite.

My problem is that the extreme taming meter decrease was without much warning, as it had not decreased at all in the past and is rather infuriating. I'm trying again so hopefully a repeat won't occur.

[Spider-Mimic]

once a passive tames food hits 50%, its taming bar will drop dramatically back to 0, you have to restart :/ it is poopy but all of the passive tames are like this from my knowledge

[Anubis]

Nope, the best(faster) to tame it its the mutton, and what happen to the tame loosing the bar is if you pay atention to the food icon on him its decreasing slowly even if it eats, so, with mutton that never had happen to me becouse its tame very fast. I have failed 3 times with prime and raw meat :/

[JamieDaNerdKing]

Anubis の投稿を引用：

Nope, the best(faster) to tame it its the mutton, and what happen to the tame loosing the bar is if you pay atention to the food icon on him its decreasing slowly even if it eats, so, with mutton that never had happen to me becouse its tame very fast. I have failed 3 times with prime and raw meat :/

Oops, my bad. For some reason I read the super long time for kibble and for mutton I added its value to the kibbles time taken. Also I think the wiki's time between feedings may be wrong and only counting the initial feeding, as when using raw meat after the first feeding it takes about every 30 seconds (And I think taming effectiveness only effects the gain per feeding). If you used a kibble first, it'll apparently take about 22-27 minutes after the first feeding, so that might be related to the problem you have of taking an hour between feeds.

GwenPool の投稿を引用：

once a passive tames food hits 50%, its taming bar will drop dramatically back to 0, you have to restart :/ it is poopy but all of the passive tames are like this from my knowledge

Ah, I see. That makes a lot of sense for my case. Due to the long absencese without feeding it due to the constant distractions, its hunger would definately be decreasing over time (Though the 5 minute wait after the initial feeding doesn't help.)

Another thing I noticed on my second attempt (Which was thankfully successful) Was that the amount of taming done per feeding decreased as well. A piece of raw meat would do about 1/30 of the taming bar when starting, and at the end it was doing about 1/100. Not sure if thats just me, but if so then that is also a factor.

Anyway, thanks for helping with this mystery everyone, case is closed!

[Timeline15]

GwenPool の投稿を引用：

once a passive tames food hits 50%, its taming bar will drop dramatically back to 0, you have to restart :/ it is poopy but all of the passive tames are like this from my knowledge

Hmm, is this a recent thing? Other than Basilosaurus, I've never had it with passive tames.
Also, have the devs said anything about it? Do they intend to fix it?

[⠀]

Timeline15 の投稿を引用：

GwenPool の投稿を引用：

once a passive tames food hits 50%, its taming bar will drop dramatically back to 0, you have to restart :/ it is poopy but all of the passive tames are like this from my knowledge

Hmm, is this a recent thing? Other than Basilosaurus, I've never had it with passive tames.
Also, have the devs said anything about it? Do they intend to fix it?

They never warn users for known semi-gamebreaking bugs.
There is no warning for tribe merges, there is no warning for tuso grab instakill, there is no warning for instakill if you stand on a boss corpse after the bossfight...
They just dont care.
If they intend to fix something?
Watch the changelogs amd you will see lol.

[DarthaNyan]

Timeline15 の投稿を引用：

GwenPool の投稿を引用：

once a passive tames food hits 50%, its taming bar will drop dramatically back to 0, you have to restart :/ it is poopy but all of the passive tames are like this from my knowledge

Hmm, is this a recent thing? Other than Basilosaurus, I've never had it with passive tames.
Also, have the devs said anything about it? Do they intend to fix it?

I dont think it is a bug, rather OP got hit by an "insta taming" exploit fix where it was possible to force passive tames to rapidly lose food and then feed them all the taming items at once. Devs made it so that passive tames now eat at fixed intervals instead of relying on food meter but Basilosaurus loses food VERY fast so taming it with raw meat might not be possible at all.

And wiki timers are wrong - probably table was compiled from delay between initial 2 feedings.

[Ragnorok]

So weird I have 4 145 and with raw mutton they took about 20 minutes on offical server maybe 25? One of the easiest tames for one of the most op dinos.... The first one did weird me out because it took one bite then like 12 mins before second then it was super fast between bites.... They are absolute beasts best squid killers... Will kill alpha mosa when they put in better saddles

[Spider-Mimic]

Timeline15 の投稿を引用：

GwenPool の投稿を引用：

once a passive tames food hits 50%, its taming bar will drop dramatically back to 0, you have to restart :/ it is poopy but all of the passive tames are like this from my knowledge

Hmm, is this a recent thing? Other than Basilosaurus, I've never had it with passive tames.
Also, have the devs said anything about it? Do they intend to fix it?

i experienced it when they first introduced the ichthy lol

[JamieDaNerdKing]

DarthaNyan の投稿を引用：

I dont think it is a bug, rather OP got hit by an "insta taming" exploit fix where it was possible to force passive tames to rapidly lose food and then feed them all the taming items at once. Devs made it so that passive tames now eat at fixed intervals instead of relying on food meter but Basilosaurus loses food VERY fast so taming it with raw meat might not be possible at all.

And wiki timers are wrong - probably table was compiled from delay between initial 2 feedings.

I wasn't aware that I was doing anything glitch-like while feeding the Basilosaurus, as regardless of how much I fed it I still had to wait a period of time before it wanted food again, I just wasn't able to keep its hunger up.

I do agree with the taming with only raw meat may be impossible, with my successful tame I was gaining less and less from each feeding, but I'd killed a couple of Therizino (The things are everywhere on my island) for Prime Meat and that might've been the extra boost that gave me success. For low level Basilo I can easily use raw meat because of my 3x taming, but its likely impossible without kibble or mutton on servers without any taming modifier just because of how hungry it gets.

[JamieDaNerdKing]

Z0mbie_Juggernaut の投稿を引用：

This has never happened to me before. But I've experienced this same problem I'm having with the Basil when I first tried taming a diplodocus.

Diplo has the same feature where the initial feeding takes a long time to cool down, I heard it might even be the first two feedings even but I'm not 100% sure about that.

[Reubatina11]

According to the Survive the Ark taming calculator, taming a 145 basil with raw meat on 3x taming will take 29 mins and 21 seconds at highest efficiency. At most, this will have taken like 35 mins. Since you were using a mixture of raw meat and raw prime meat, the only plausible outcome is that you're not feeding it frequently enough. Keep that in mind next time, and you'll have a much easier time. :)

[JamieDaNerdKing]

Reubatina11 の投稿を引用：

According to the Survive the Ark taming calculator, taming a 145 basil with raw meat on 3x taming will take 29 mins and 21 seconds at highest efficiency. At most, this will have taken like 35 mins. Since you were using a mixture of raw meat and raw prime meat, the only plausible outcome is that you're not feeding it frequently enough. Keep that in mind next time, and you'll have a much easier time. :)

Thanks for the response but you're a little late to the party. This fact has already been established in previous comments.