Ramps impossible?

[Sephiroth]

I am building an elevated base (think along the lines of Booty Bay for those of you who played WoW) and have hit a real show stopper. I cannot, in any way, build a ramp to connect buildings. I have platforms (ceilings) for walkways but when one walkway is above another I am screwed. The sloped roof tiles only snap so they extend down and underneath the top platform, not down and away from it. The ramps are at some angle that doesn't line up with ANYTHING in the game (really, I have never figured out what good these are) and they WILL snap correctly, but there's always a gap because the angle is not 45deg like the sloped roof. How the heck can this be done? I don't want a Donkey-Kong world of ladders. I beat him enough in the 90's on Atari!

What I want to do

I am sure there is a trick but I cannot figure this out.

[Speedbump]

Use an actual ramp.

[MortVent]

use slopped roofs (some aggravation there), ramps are buggy when used like that.. Now you can use S+ in singleplayer though and that helps a lot with issues like that

[Chrmdfreak]

S+ and all your worries are gone! :D

[Speedbump]

Originally posted by MortVent:

use slopped roofs (some aggravation there), ramps are buggy when used like that.. Now you can use S+ in singleplayer though and that helps a lot with issues like that

He is using sloped roofs.

[MortVent]

Originally posted by Rick Mason Mason Militia:

Originally posted by MortVent:

use slopped roofs (some aggravation there), ramps are buggy when used like that.. Now you can use S+ in singleplayer though and that helps a lot with issues like that

He is using sloped roofs.

noticed that after the fact. I usually build one side... then build the other off of it. Trying to link buildings doesn't work so well since the pillar heights change if you place them vs placing the ceilings first.

It's tricky but can still be done with roofs and ramps, sometimes you have to use a roof and others a ramp (especially if you have walls in place for a stair well/ramp... sloped walls = roof for sure)

[Gran]

Thats not gonna work that way.
Build a Wall on the right side of the lower ceiling. place a ceiling on the upper part of the Wall so that it continues to the right, place a second ceiling to the right, from that ceiling pillar down to the ground. Then remove the wall and the ceiling directly connected to it, then place the ramp.

small hint, use thatch parts for everything you're going to destroy later.

[Sephiroth]

Couple of things here.

1) My pillars are EXACTLY the same height at ground level. I can make a video on how I do this, but suffice to say the higher pillar is EXACTLY one pillar taller than the lower one. It is also EXCATLY one tile over. Pillars do snap to each other and allows for specific placement.

2) I will upload a second screenshot in a bit. The problem I am having is that the sloped roof will only snap underneath the upper ceiling tile. It will not snap out, only under. I will try the wall idea next and see if it works, but I tried something similar and when I destroyed the extra parts the roof fell also.

3) Ramps don't work here. They are at maybe a 60deg angle, making them always fall short. My pillars are precisely every fourth ceiling tile and exactly the same height up to this point, where I purposely built one extra pillar on so I could stay in the air as I climb a small hill. If you can show me how to make a ramp work where it isn't too high, too low, too short, whatever, I can try it.

4) I will not run any mods right now. The only mod I want to run is Primitive+, but that never works (broken as hell) so I am running plain Ark for now.

Thanks for the suggestions!

[Gran]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

Couple of things here.

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Thanks for the suggestions!

Yup you're right my bad, i was so used to the stairs from the Glass&Metal Mod that exactly cover that distance that i mistaked them as ramps. sorry for that.

[Sephiroth]

No problem, Gran. I just cannot believe that the devs haven't considered a normal set of stairs for this exact situation. Well that or that they haven't made the sloped roof pieces snap both ways.

I'll wait for official to get fixed. On a related note, and not to sound like a complete imbecile, but I have yet to see where to launch Scorched Earth from. Granted, I haven't looked very much since I am enjoying the stock game, but it isn't obvious like P+ is.

Finally, here is a screenshot of how the sloped roof will snap. It only snaps back underneath the tile, not out and away from it, which is silly since if it can snap that way why can't it snap 180deg out?

Sloped roof bug B

Oh and I tried the wall method mentioned above but every time I destroy ANYTHING the sloped roof falls. Maybe I am doing it wrong?

[Gran]

so fooled around a bit with your problem on my server.
The only solution i found was to build another lower ceiling towards the pillar of the higher one.
then placed a sloped left wall on that ceiling and then i was able to fit in the sloped roof, didn't look really nice, but worked^^

edit:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=861938795

[Sephiroth]

You can use regular walls for that also, but again, it looks bad. I may just stop on the base and simply do other things until it is fixed. There is no logical reason to not be able to do this. It could easily be attached at the top AND bottom and be secure. I reported it as a bug.

[Gran]

yes but they would stick up even more.
the only other options i found where either the reinforced stairs from the Ark Advanced 10 or the Glas & Metal Stairs that worked the way you want them. But you ruled out using mods, so :-/

[Sephiroth]

Yeah, no mods here. Maybe later. Thanks for the advice though. I'll wait and see if it gets fixed in a later patch.