Therizinosaurus Question

[Rashaka]

Do these birds seem a little over powered?

Their ability to harvest most resources is insane considering how many different ones that they can harvest and how much of those they can harvest in one hit.

They are also everywhere in the game. They have a really high spawn chance so it's always easy to find and almost nothing in the game will attack one even when it is tamed and a player is riding it.

Granted these are primarily PvE woes but still. I'm sure even on a PvP server it's nice being able to just walk through the land without much of anything attacking you.

It could just be me but they seem to take a lot away from the game considering how easy they are to find and how easy they are to tame.

Thoughts from anyone else?

[Gravemar]

Well, they are great for farming, but you need to level them so they get more efficient for specific things and they don't level up too fast with just farming. For the taming they are meh, I mean they take awfully long to tame if you want a medium to high level one. They seem to be good if you have them in the early game, but it's kinda hard to tame one early and in end game you have your gigas for meat and other dinos, that are basically more efficient if you don't level the bird on that particular thing.

[Cobretti]

I agree they are awesome but disagree they are OP.

They are the best harvesters for sure but they are balanced out because they don't get a weight bonus for wood so you have to have something in toe to unload into which is usually a dino that does have a wood bonus.

Also they are a bit of an effort to tame because many newer players would be berry taming them and a level 15 is a 3 hour tame with 10-12 minute intervals of torpor top up so it isn't exactly set and forget.

[Teratus]

Easy to tame?.. I disagree.. Therizino's are a pain in the ass to tame.. they burn through narcotics like no tomorrow.. even with 3x taming speed.

It takes way too long to tame them.. and you can't do jack when you are since you have to stay nearby to keep them unconscious.. it's increadbily boring.. but when you have one it's pretty great.. specially for fiber farming.

The main problem I have with them is their spawn rate.. they are super common.. more common than most dinos.. this wouldn't be that big a deal if it were not for the fact that they are ridiculously aggressive.. and their attacks even at level 1 can rip though armor and player health faster than anything else..
Suffice to say if you annoy one and you don't have access to late game weapons and armor you're probably going to die..

For new players or low level players they are a real pain.. hardly much different from spawning near a Spino or a Rex.. which are far less common.

[Jcyrus]

Originally posted by Teratus:

The main problem I have with them is their spawn rate.. they are super common.. more common than most dinos.. this wouldn't be that big a deal if it were not for the fact that they are ridiculously aggressive.. and their attacks even at level 1 can rip though armor and player health faster than anything else..

That's my beef as well.

I play singleplayer so there are no other player structures limiting dino spawns, meaning these things are everywhere. If I go from my base on the western shoreline to the swamps, it's not unusual to see 3-4 along the way, and for something as strong as they are that's too high.

Every once in a while I have to take one of my stronger tames out to clear out the ones that have spawned closed enough to wander to my base so they don't wind up causing problems. I just pig-bomb them, using an argent to drop my high level Daeodon on top of them.

It would be nice to see them have some more natural predators to help keep their numbers lower.

[EazyLee]

I hate the things, not a think i like about em, liked the game better without them.

[Nosferatu]

They are verrrry good BUT go TAME one it takes thousands of Narcotics and a lot of time my friend so if u have ione u worked hard for it.

[Maxanto]

I disagree with the OP as I see them the way I see all other dino's.

They are supposed to be aggressive and dangerous, why do people keep begging to make the game easier? Why not just live up to the challenge and tackle it head on?

I mean isnt that why you play games, or do you prefer an easy win?

[Nosferatu]

To be fair the AI of that Dino is just dumb it attacks only humans and its a herbivore? it should not attack on range only when u attack it and it chases u til death

[Dolomite83]

http://ark.gamepedia.com/Ghillie_Armor always travel in the wild wearing this and you don't have to worry about them unless you purposely piss them off

[Rashaka]

Originally posted by Maxanto:

I disagree with the OP as I see them the way I see all other dino's.

They are supposed to be aggressive and dangerous, why do people keep begging to make the game easier? Why not just live up to the challenge and tackle it head on?

I mean isnt that why you play games, or do you prefer an easy win?

Never at any point did I say they were hard. I said they are too easy to acquire and make the game too easy. They are too overpowered when tamed and too under powered when not tamed.

[Nosferatu]

they got nerfed anyway

[n_scheffel]

Right now they are a bit OP compared to other harvesters, but the devs stated they are supposed to be the "apex harvester". Put a mammoth on follow and I can harvest enough wood to fill my forge just by harvesting ~20 trees immediately surrounding my base. Take the same therizino out to kill the 3-4 brontos hanging out near my base and fill couple fridges with meat as well as taking back enough prime to make ~60 jerky.

They are balanced with a few downsides, like the fact berry taming anything but a very low level one is completely impractical. Mega eggs for kibble are also a pain, so much so that those eggs are the 2nd most valuable eggs on my server behind boa eggs.

Once the rest of the dinos get their TLC pass, Therizinos might not seem quite so OP. Now that doeds, ankys and mammoths got the weight reduction buff, we already saw the gap closed quite a bit between those harvesters. If they add the "specialize mechanic" to all harvesters, I expect the gap will be more appropriate.

do agree that there are too many Therizinos running around at any given time though. Part of it is a function of their spawn rate, but the biggest factor is likely that nothing can kill them. They seem to share spawn locations with diplos and chalicos, so when those things die to predators eventually a Therizino will spawn in their place...and nothing can kill them.