No support for the current King's Quest Collection on Steam?

[Saftle]

Steam users that have 64-bit systems can't run the games, but yet on GoG or via unnofficial patches, you can get it to work without problems. I bought the game in 2012, and there still hasn't been any word on supporting your already existing titles.

Coincendentally, I tried refunding the game yesterday, since I've only seen a black screen since I purchased it, and then ran across this new game being released.

Would love to support Sierra products, but it looks like Activision can't handle the original Sierra IPs, like Sierra could.

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Edit: It appears that shortly after I requested the refund, the store page for the original collection is now gone. Looks like a fix won't be coming after all. Here is the community hub link: https://steamcommunity.com/app/10100

Props to the developers of the GoG platform for doing the work for you. It appears that removing the game completely from Steam was a good strategy in not showing your already tarnished reputation.

[SupernaturalMuffin]

Ya I ended up buying the orginal king quest games on GOG because the steam versions where broken. Seems like they just gave up on them and now want to sell this game.

[Saftle]

Originally posted by TheSupernaturalMuffin:

Ya I ended up buying the orginal king quest games on GOG because the steam versions where broken. Seems like they just gave up on them and now want to sell this game.

Until today, I hadn't really seen a point to GoG. I understand now, that if I want to truly experience the classics on modern systems, that Steam isn't quite there yet. I'm now glad both platforms exist.

[NerVusTwiTch]

Originally posted by Saftle:

Originally posted by TheSupernaturalMuffin:

Ya I ended up buying the orginal king quest games on GOG because the steam versions where broken. Seems like they just gave up on them and now want to sell this game.

Until today, I hadn't really seen a point to GoG. I understand now, that if I want to truly experience the classics on modern systems, that Steam isn't quite there yet. I'm now glad both platforms exist.

Yup,I own every Quest series game I could grab from GOG.
Space Quest,Police Quest,Kings Quest,Quest for Glory series and I think I may have Codename Iceman....if not Im going to go find it right now.Same creator as Police Quest but as a Navy Seal.

[bean]

wow... mark me down as someone who's GoG light bulb also went off, I never buy these classics anymore because of past experiences and reading about the issues people are having... good to know there is a chance over there!

[NerVusTwiTch]

The GOG versions work without any issues for me.
I just install GOG Galaxy and install...boom works for me without any setting changes and Im also using Windows 8.1

[frisby]

can't believe they pulled the old games from the store, and are calling this a collection... It's episodic, and very misleading considering the collection of old games being sold that way for decades.

[Zorlac]

That's the whole point of gog. To make old games run on modern systems. Steam sells games as the developer turns them in. That's not a knock on steam, or a props to gog. it's simply how the relative sites handle business.

[AdolJr]

just buy all sierra games on GOG, I bought KQ and QFG series in GOG, runs smoothly

[Camerooni]

Nice to know these games we're on Steam at some point.. shame they weren't working.. I guess now I feel a small degree of relief that they never made them available in Australia.

If I had these games and they didn't work I'd be asking for a refund right now.. The fact they've removed them from the store is enough of a reason to show that the publisher shouldn't have been selling them in that state.

I'm assuming they took them down because the new game will encourage people to try to the originals - remember what they were like etc. and then they might actually have to support them :p

[Zorlac]

Originally posted by Camerooni:

Nice to know these games we're on Steam at some point.. shame they weren't working.. I guess now I feel a small degree of relief that they never made them available in Australia.

If I had these games and they didn't work I'd be asking for a refund right now.. The fact they've removed them from the store is enough of a reason to show that the publisher shouldn't have been selling them in that state.

I'm assuming they took them down because the new game will encourage people to try to the originals - remember what they were like etc. and then they might actually have to support them :p

That's the thing about buying old games on steam. You buy them knowing ahead of time they're the default games in their original state with no alterations unless the developer specifically says otherwise. In other words most of the time you know already if they're going to run or not before you buy them.

And no, they didn't take them down because they might have to support them. It's not steam/valve's place to support another developer's games. They're only a storefront that sells the games.

[Camerooni]

Originally posted by Zorlac:

That's the thing about buying old games on steam. You buy them knowing ahead of time they're the default games in their original state with no alterations unless the developer specifically says otherwise. In other words most of the time you know already if they're going to run or not before you buy them.

And no, they didn't take them down because they might have to support them. It's not steam/valve's place to support another developer's games. They're only a storefront that sells the games.

Way to misread the intent of my original comment.. I never said Valve should have to support, but rather Activision/Sierra.

Also - If you buy on Steam you expect it to run on any machine that is newer than the minimum requirements.. If it doesn't work on newer hardware/software it needs to state as such.

I think it's a bit of an assumption that 'buying a game on steam means you are buying a game in its original state'.. rather people buy from steam expecting games that they can play now - especially since Steams requirements are higher than a lot of these old games.. to assume that you'd be buying it only to run on old hardware is stupid.. and you shouldn't be giving publishers a free ride with such an expectation.

Less of a problem now with Steam refunds.. I hope they get used a hell of a lot more, and these shoddy situations get fixed for the benefit of everyone.

[Zorlac]

Support a 20+ year old game? You have to see why that's not financially sound. GoG gets away with it because that's what they've built their business on.

And no I don't think it's an assumption. Nowhere on steam are we made to assume old games have been updated unless the page specifically says otherwise. As a matter of fact I thought it was well known that you're buying a game as is on steam. (Older games that is), that there likely won't be any support for them, especially when a lot of times the original developers of these games are long gone.

[Camerooni]

By support I mean to tweak the dosbox emulator they are running it in :p

And if you're not willing to support it on current machines.. don't try to make a quick buck by selling it to trade on people's nostalgia unless you're willing to make sure that it works..

Consumer protection laws call it 'fit for purpose'.. the purpose is to play on current computers.. it is not fit for that purpose.

It is particularly galling if you are selling it in other places where it actually works on current machines.. it's borderline fraud.

[Zorlac]

Originally posted by Camerooni:

By support I mean to tweak the dosbox emulator they are running it in :p

And if you're not willing to support it on current machines.. don't try to make a quick buck by selling it to trade on people's nostalgia unless you're willing to make sure that it works..

Consumer protection laws call it 'fit for purpose'.. the purpose is to play on current computers.. it is not fit for that purpose.

It is particularly galling if you are selling it in other places where it actually works on current machines.. it's borderline fraud.

And with software it's mostly up to the consumer to know what they're buying and if it will run on your hardware. That's how software always has been and always will be. Unless a developer specifically states their product should run on your OS you can't take any legal action against them for selling old software. You bought it knowing it was old and likely wouldn't run (not you obviously, a generalization), that's not the developers or publisher's fault.

When the games were released it ran on the available hardware and OS's that were out. There's no legal action that can be taken against them for it not working on an OS that came out 20 years later.

[Camerooni]

I'm not saying legal action.. all I said was a refund if it didn't work.. basic consumer rights.. you got up in arms because I said I hope everyone who bought it and it didn't work applied for a refund :p