Reviews and Likes/Dislikes

[nerevar]

This is my review that is unfortunately 4000+ characters too long to be a recommendation. Sorry that this is a bit lengthy, but it's necessary for such a game.

Shogun 2 is like Napoleon and Rome combined. It has my favorite combat system since Rome, with the graphics and an improved AI of Napoleon. Shogun 2 takes the player into the violent country of Japan during the Sengoku Jidai, with the position of Shogunate up to just about anyone! The various clans, units, and abilities make the campaign amazing. With several clans to start off with right off the bat, with various starting positions including positioning on the map, economical and army strength, various bonus abilities, and more, the game will provide you with hours of fun. Purchase clan DLCs for Shogun 2 (Ikko Ikki, Hattori, and Otomo are available at the moment), and the game will provide even more fun in both singleplayer and multiplayer gameplay. Go one step further, and purchase the Rise of the Samurai DLC, to recieve much more entertainment for a fair price. Rise of the Samurai (or RotS) takes place in the Gempai War, when three powerful families struggle in an all out battle for control of Japan, revolutionizing war completely for the peasents and rising samurais of Japan. Then, you can go even further, and purchase the Fall of the Samurai DLC, and bring total havoc to the land of Japan. With foreign powers, including Britain, the United States, and France, quickly migrating into Japan for the wealth and resources that it would provide, Japan is thrown into a war of revolutionary technology as the Shogunate of Japan struggles to claim power over the land against the Chinese Empire. With both sides claiming they deserve ownership of Japan, who is right? You decide, of course! With an emersive plot that can be stretched like Playdoh, anything could be fact, and everything as we know it could become completely different as clans will be destroyed and enslaved by their rivals. Not only that, but as a Fall of the Samurai (or FotS) exclusive feature, you could fight for either the Shogunate, the Empire, or yourself, by forming your own republic. Each point of the triangle has advantages and disadvantages, but each will provide something you should find fun. Naval bombardments, railroad systems that allow not only improved trade, but transportation of armies as well, rifle-weilding soldiers in addition to traditional samurais and ninjas. Similarly to Shogun 2, FotS also has clans available for purchase. While they do not add anything for multiplayer, they do provide even more interesting and unique scenarios to singleplayer and multiplayer-campaign.

With the singleplayer out of the way, let's move on to multiplayer.

The multiplayer of Shogun 2 provides so many hours of fun. While difficult to pick up at first, especially those who are new to the Total War franchise, there are many videos on YouTube that can teach players plenty of tips and tricks. Shogun 2 has a completely revolutionary multiplayer system than the rest of the Total War games. Though fans of the old system can always revisit it by playing a "Classic Battle", the new system is sure to provide a new challenge for the more stubborn veterans. With a Conquest Map that allows players to progressively unlock more units, perks, and aesthetic armor, players can expand their army as well as fight for the control of Japan in a team-based (or not team-based for the more active and dedicated players) mini-game that uses Steam support very well by allowing players to use their Steam groups as their in-game clans. So, if someone wants to form their own in-game clan, they can as long as they know how to make a Steam group. In battles, two sides face each other in bloody war (truly bloody if you purchase the cheap Blood Pack DLC that works for FotS as well!) to either kill or route the enemy and return to their Daimyo in glory. With up to four player teams, eight-player land, siege, and naval battles will bring unique fun every time (**disclaimer: to those who use the same army loadout every battle, I'd recommend ignoring that last statement). Also new to the Shogun 2 multiplayer system are veteran units that can be upgraded uniquely depending on their success in battle as well as the success of they're Steam-supported clan. With that, players can customly build their army with units that are truly unique, in both appearance and skill. No format is wrong for a veteran, nor is there a format right for a veteran. This provides the ability of experimentation for players to truly go nuts with their army. Of course, if the army is only trained in the ability to run in the Olympic races with a spear or sword in their hands, they may not be fit for combat.

Overall, I found this game fantastic. Though it's a large game in size, and still has some minor bugs, it's a great experience. If it was ironed out a bit further, it will truly surpass every other Total War game in my opinion. If you like strategy, definitely pick up this game!


...anyone looking to be an aggressive editor of reviews?

[Pleinair the Red Star]

... hmm how much multiplayer do you play anyawys.

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shogun 2 is not like rome total war not even a bit tiny, rome has a lot more strategy. shogun2 is more like rock pappar scissor, spear beats cav, cav beat sword, sword beat spear. In rome total war any unit could beat any unit, how to do a lot of flaking and take advantage of terrain, while in shogun2 I just have to spam a big army of a ashigaru, that beats everything even on very hard, which made the campaign less fun, and fortresses are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy to defend. even napoleon total war had much more strategy than shogun 2. but you are right about a better ai, but it still sucks. The ai let me attack his spearwall from behind without giving a single ♥♥♥♥

[Pleinair the Red Star]

Първоначално публикувано от nosuchname:

shogun 2 is not like rome total war not even a bit tiny, rome has a lot more strategy. shogun2 is more like rock pappar scissor, spear beats cav, cav beat sword, sword beat spear. In rome total war any unit could beat any unit, how to do a lot of flaking and take advantage of terrain, while in shogun2 I just have to spam a big army of a ashigaru, that beats everything even on very hard, which made the campaign less fun, and fortresses are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy to defend. even napoleon total war had much more strategy than shogun 2. but you are right about a better ai, but it still sucks. The ai let me attack his spearwall from behind without giving a single ♥♥♥♥

tsk tsk tsk. Rome has moar strategy you say? okay! Spam ashigaru = win? sure, you really know what your talking about. Rome = grassyflatland any other map your a noob.

[A Wild Sandbag]

Well if your Oda, you could kind of get away with it, spear walling all the things with long yari.
But the clear rock paper scissor system that shogun 2 had was for me a reminder of Rome..

Empire and napoleon had that, but the barriers between each were blurry (for me at least i would reason that i didn't even need skirms in some cases, mostly because they require flat ground to make use of the range).

Where as in shogun 2, i know to bring missiles because there useful even during the main line engagement (I know skirms can just sit in-front of a line and continue to shoot.)

Oh and siege on Empire and Napoleon were good damn awful, maybe that contributes to the "ease" factor of shogun 2.
There is a reason that the defender gets less koku in a siege in shogun.

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ashigura spam works pretty well on the singelplayer campaign, you can ask other people if you want. ashigura are cheap and you can have plenty of them. And you are the noob, you probaply never played rome total war. There are more players that prefer rome tw than shogun 2.

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well you could still easly beat hoplit if cav if use it correctly. Shogun 2 is only full of spam. Like they had to make cak weaker because people spammed cav in multiplayer a lot.

[Pleinair the Red Star]

Първоначално публикувано от nosuchname:

ashigura spam works pretty well on the singelplayer campaign, you can ask other people if you want. ashigura are cheap and you can have plenty of them. And you are the noob, you probaply never played rome total war. There are more players that prefer rome tw than shogun 2.

they made cav weaker due to the exploit cav had, not because people spammed cav. read the forums when you notice something is wrong. Rome TW, people prefer it because they actually suck in shogun2. most players who played RomeTW can not even adapt to Shogun2's interface and continue to play in phases. Due to Shogun2 being really fast paced, phases becomes useless.

In Rome campaign all I did was cav spam to win. Yep because thats what you call tactics.

[nerevar]

I'm not saying Shogun 2 is absolutely superior to Rome. I'm just saying I disliked the combat of Total War from every game between Rome and Shogun 2, excluding those two of course. Of course I like Napoleon and Empire and Medieval for their own reasons, but I just find Shogun 2 and Rome's combat the best out of them (Medieval II coming pretty close). I don't like spamming on Shogun 2, I like to have an army that actually makes sense. Just like how I prefered it in Rome.

[narmohio]

My units charge into matchlocks and red bear inf with guns not to metion marines/ i dc whos behind the troops placed in the battle.... I dont understand why my spears decide they dont want to attack once they finally make it to the front line.... literally those guns are useless at close range and they still coward out. I think maybe the problem is with the cards i use before i leave for battle... If not....to all you army/navy/air force /marine recruiters paying money on "work" hours to look good. Kill yourself in 16th Century Fashion before sun or the lil one here gets it. No apology, No reason im losing to a noob with an army full of guns because they cant and dont know how to use the units and just mass out on Inf like their good players. this game is supposed to repersent japan's civil war not the invention of guns nathan hale out. ful gafl gl hf ttyl susorlater

[narmohio]

if anyone wants to co-op im game tried of GUNS in necks/faces/heads/bodys/legs/arms/CHINS/JAWBONES/Teeth before the sun rises

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Shogun 2 campaign is for me much more easier than the rome campaign. And i have more win than loss in shogun 2 multiplayer. But i stopped because the battle are so short and boring. And a guy spammed cav on me but he still lost. There is a lot cav spam inthis game, maybe you missed it somehow. And to beat cav in rome is pretty easy, But the ai cant really handle cav, the same thing happens with ashigura units. they cant handle my cheap ashigura army. stupid ai. And do you mean prince of macedon sucks, if you never heard of this pro player check out his channel, he stopped playing shogun 2 because its boring. he is one of the best, and he would pprobaly kick your butt

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in rome a battle could take more than an hour, while shogun 2 battles always take 10-20 min

[Noizzzmaker]

Първоначално публикувано от nosuchname:

in rome a battle could take more than an hour, while shogun 2 battles always take 10-20 min

in shogun 2 battles can take more than hour aswell.. in rome the battles were also really fast, and much smaller armies.. most battles only took 15 minutes

[76448893]

This is not a review. It' is a praising. Not informative. Seems you are related to someone who sells the game. Not useful, and yes - too long.

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well the killanimation in shogun 2 cause the battle go faster than in rome. Most battles i played took about 10 min, as longest noone camps. And yes with smaller armies battle goes faster, but the same thing happend in shogun 2.