Female Daimyo Suggestions

[Huntress]

Does anyone know of a mod that will let me have female daimyos? I'm sure they weren't exactly common, but the way I see it is that I'm playing a game, not a history lesson.

[MEOWMEOWMAN]

Then you didnt get the memo, they try to make it as realistic as possible. So the daimyo's you have now where the original of then

[Richon]

With that kind of attitude, might as well not even set it in Japan. Or keep any level of consistency. Shogun II: Total War should be about Commander Adama leading an army of stormtroopers against Captain Mal and the Serenity in a battle over Middle Earth...

[Green Raven]

Sheesh,people,lay off. Total Wars arent about recreating history,theyre about rewriting it. If she wants to play as a woman,why shouldnt she?

[Richon]

Originally posted by Green Raven:

Sheesh,people,lay off. Total Wars arent about recreating history,theyre about rewriting it. If she wants to play as a woman,why shouldnt she?

Because it makes less than no sense in Medieval Japanese culture. There is a difference between historical plausibility and pure fantasy...

[Richon]

In other words, 'rewriting' history is taking the Shimazu and making them the Shoguns (when historically the Oda pulled it off).

Taking a woman (who would never be permitted to lead men in feudal Japan) and maknig her the head of a clan, and possibly even Shogun, is not 'rewriting' history, it is making stuff up.

[Supermarine]

Originally posted by Green Raven:

Sheesh,people,lay off. Total Wars arent about recreating history,theyre about rewriting it. If she wants to play as a woman,why shouldnt she?

This ^

The devs wanted a realistic game, yes, but they also gave people the editor and workshop to experiment and get creative.

There's nothing wrong with that. Actually, it's a very interesting idea.

Now, if you insist being anal retentive, there were actually some powerful women back then in Japan. No female daimyos maybe, but that doesn't mean they didn't get things done or even lead an army in times of need.

[Richon]

I wouldn't have had an issue with her request for such a mod but for this statement...

Originally posted by Huntress:

I'm playing a game, not a history lesson.

[Cretin]

Kill off yer' daimyo and make sure you only have a female left in your family. She will take over untill a son comes of age.

[Huntress]

Jeez, people, I'm asking for a mod, not a change to the core game. It's my personal choice for how I want to play *my* copy of the game. Why is it OK to mod light sabers into "Mount and Blade", but not women who actually get to do something into this? I mean, we're PC gamers. It couldn't just be Xbox Live-style blatant sexism, right?

I guess I'll have to read up on modding and roll my own. Oh well, there are worse things than having to work a little for what you want.

[Richon]

Originally posted by Huntress:

Jeez, people, I'm asking for a mod, not a change to the core game. It's my personal choice for how I want to play *my* copy of the game. Why is it OK to mod light sabers into "Mount and Blade", but not women who actually get to do something into this? I mean, we're PC gamers. It couldn't just be Xbox Live-style blatant sexism, right?

I guess I'll have to read up on modding and roll my own. Oh well, there are worse things than having to work a little for what you want.

Perhaps I simply missed your intent. But the comment, 'I'm playing a game, not a history lesson.' seemed like a criticism of the game itself, and thus rubbed the wrong way on those of us who enjoy historically accurate games. I was perhaps, also, still a little too sore from a recent debate with a chap who used to same argument as a criticism of Rome 2 itself, and who was very rude. If any of my frustration with him rubbed off in my reaction to you, I apologise.

I fully respect your wish to mod your own copy. It was never my intention to imply otherwise.

[R.I.P]

Examining this mod:http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?540561-Daimyos-amp-Generals-MOD-%28updated-Otomo-Sorin%29 could help you find which files to edit.(must be logged in to download).
I've never used the "assembly kit" or whatever the new modding tool is,but Pack File Manager would likely be enough to open up and examine the mod.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?443435-TWS2-Index-of-Modding-Tutorials-Resources-amp-Tools-%28Last-Update-21-Dec-2011%29

[The_Yogi]

There are some problem though at making Female Daimyo...She'll speak like men, marries a woman, and Your Heir will suddenly get a gender operation...

Yes, I'm talking about Technical matters.

[Antimemer]

Originally posted by The_Yogi:

There are some problem though at making Female Daimyo...She'll speak like men, marries a woman, and Your Heir will suddenly get a gender operation...

Yes, I'm talking about Technical matters.

I'm glad someone else was going to point this out. It'd have to change MANY things for it function and would be a bit impractical.

[Tom S]

(Real historical note) While she was not a daimyo; after the death of Toyotomi Hideyoshi his concubine "Yodo-dono" sort of ran the show as "dowager mother" until Toyotomi Hideyori would come of age. Before Hideyori could come of age and take over leadership, the battle of Sekigahara occured and Tokugawa Ieyasu seized power. Culminating in the seige of Osaka and the death of Hideyori, his supporters, and his mother.

[Huntress]

Perhaps I simply missed your intent. But the comment, 'I'm playing a game, not a history lesson.' seemed like a criticism of the game itself, and thus rubbed the wrong way on those of us who enjoy historically accurate games.

That's all right. It's easy for these misunderstandings to happen on the Internet. I hope I didn't offend anyone else who wants their game to be as historically accurate as possible.