Black Ship

[Scotsman of Rivia]

Hey guys, so quick question. In all my time of playing Shogun, I never have attempted to claim the Black Ship that sails around. I read about people saying it is not worth going after in the first place, is this true?

[bvguthrie]

The Black Ship is basically a super version of the Nanban Trade Ship. It has lots of cannons and a huge crew (with matchlocks). If you can get it, you can devastate enemy fleets. The problem is that trying to get it tends to result in you losing your entire navy. It's probably only worth attempting if you're skilled at naval battles--you'll need to do a lot of maneuvering to survive.

[CHE]

But once you get it. it will mean you will have a strong ship that has a low upkeep cost compared with its power, relative to say, the upkeep cost of a regular fleet, yes? ;)

[SMILEDOZER]

How do I not know about this? Where does it sail? Everywhere? Is there only one?

[Scotsman of Rivia]

Originally posted by CHE:

But once you get it. it will mean you will have a strong ship that has a low upkeep cost compared with its power, relative to say, the upkeep cost of a regular fleet, yes? ;)

That is a very valid point right there.

[David]

It's 100% worth it if you have a spare fleet too engage it with, or can lose your current fleet to rebuild a new one around the black ship. Gives you an OP fleet to wreck the seas with.

[Iceira]

the black ship keep respawn with a new captain, but what you dont get as npc its not worth it , but if ai capture it that can be a problem, so its better you get it, but only if you are very strong i can spare that fleet in the hunt... atm i cant , i have modded my game and has realm divine and have more then enough with guard duty at my coastline , i will only try if they are damage by others,

modder version
expand japan
and deartmod

its a huge challenge and im not sure i will win it atm...

[FullmetalOrk]

No i'd say its worth it. as others have said its a suped up nanban galleon so if you cant build such ships yourself i highly recomend getting it as such ships can defeat entire enemy fleets by itself.

[Socal_Crypto]

I've played a few games and have never had to rely on my navy so i just ignor the black ship

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by Smiledozer:

How do I not know about this? Where does it sail? Everywhere? Is there only one?

It depends on your faction. Depending on who you are playing as, you will first encounter it around 1548.

It goes around Japan twice in a year.

It sails around the entire Japanese archipelego in a circular route.

It will respawn if you take it the next turn.

As others have said, it takes a lot to capture it. You'll need two full fleets (about 20 ships) to do it without a huge loss, and half of those need to be at least Medium Bunes.

[VoiD]

For the record it can repel entire fleets on it's own too.

[Szoreny Klepko]

I thought you had to be christian in order to repair it after taking it though?

I took it once with a wolf pack of bow kobaya setting it on fire to paralyze the crew, then waves of medium bune, but once I had it I couldn't repair it in any of my ports...

Maybe it was bugged since I captured it from another japanese faction.