Total War: SHOGUN 2

Total War: SHOGUN 2

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Save system is made without a single thought put into it, it will erase your progress - BEWARE!
No developer will ever read this after all this time, so it's more a venting/warning post. Who had the stupidiest idea in the history of save game design to NOT separete 3 unique campaign modes? I had *so amazing* Ikko-Ikki campaign and was near the end of it, but I wanted to freshen my experience a bit and play some Fall Of Samurai campaign. Made decent progress, left game for some time, came back with renewed energy and enthusiasm to finish both of my campaigns only to find out that the Fall Of Samurai autosave and quicksave override base game autosave and quicksave. This is something I would yell at a student for, let alone a contracted game designer - as if you can't think of such basic solutions like seperate saves for different modes then you realy don't have a designer mind that's needed for a job like this. To spare any of you the frustration I have to deal with now - be aware that the game overrides your two most common save files and you need to made a specific, manual one after each change to game mode you play at a time...
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Datau Jan 25 @ 3:17am 
Sorry, but this is on you.

As an old saying goes, "save often, and in different slots".
Didn’t think there would be someone who doesn’t make manual saves anyway. Did you always exit after ending the turn for the autosave and rewatch the ai turn everytime?
Anathema Jan 25 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Datau:
Sorry, but this is on you.

As an old saying goes, "save often, and in different slots".
Its on him that three different games save to the same slot? Wild take
Datau Jan 25 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by Anathema:
Its on him that three different games save to the same slot? Wild take
He's talking about autosaves. Overwriting is not an issue with manual saves.
Based on his post history his account has existed for a little over 3 weeks.

I'd certainly take his concerns about the auto-save system seriously.
I've been gaming in general and playing the the Total war games for 25 years now (the first Shogun came out in 2000}. I can't remember ever playing any game that the auto save and quick save features were designed to be for anything but the current game one is playing. They are meant to be temporary features that are overwritten each time they are used. Manual saves should be used for managing multiple campaigns. The nice feature about the Total war games is that they allow one to alter the pre-selected save title. Many if not most games don't allow that at all.

I always thought this was pretty common knowledge.

Cheers
You can lead a donkey to water, but can't make him drink. :gobble: :blackstone:

Ancient Chinese Secret - Lo Wang.
Last edited by Iron Knights; Jan 25 @ 5:08pm
Anathema Jan 25 @ 8:32pm 
Originally posted by Datau:
Originally posted by Anathema:
Its on him that three different games save to the same slot? Wild take
He's talking about autosaves. Overwriting is not an issue with manual saves.
Yeah, and that's a wild take, imagine silent hill 2 saving over silent hill one on your playstation memory card every time it saved
Imagine telling people you're incapable of making a game save.

It's certainly a lot more applicable to this thread than making a random comment about SH2 saves on a playstation.
they really ought to make FOTS a separate game. Even the launcher considers it one
How is it possible that that thread have two logicaly thinking people responding and:

1. Dude who thinks that years long lasting acount has 3 weeks + that the value of argument is based on not *what* is been said, but on *who* is saying it.
2. Cultural guy who depite that misses the point 100%. Yes. Auto and quicksave are meant for the campaing you play at the moment however sane designer separates them by faction, let alone different game altogether. They understood it hence their Warhammer games do exactly that. I also play as long as you as if it matters.
3. Someone who runed in with chinese saying that's even further from any value added to discussion.

Just...wow. I see that someone could say that food should be edible and people would still flock in to say "how dare you expect that?!", problably just to *always* take the opossing opinion for the sake of it

Anyway, thumbs up for Silent Hill being mentioned - another one of classic fans, sending virtual cofee ☕
Eddie G Jan 26 @ 8:23am 
You should have known better. There is never more than one auto save. Only the new games in total war have done that. A thinking person would see that they could not do that till quite a few years after Shogun 2. In fact I'm pretty sure Rome 2 and Attila only have 1 auto save. 3 Kingdoms was the first historical game to have several auto saves, and you have to turn that feature on, by enabling incremental saves. I personally do not like incremental saves, because I have limited space on my hard drive. You are really gonna flip when you play on Legendary if this bothers you.
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Eddie G Jan 26 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by coffeemm8:
they really ought to make FOTS a separate game. Even the launcher considers it one

No it doesn't

You have to start Shogun 2, then select the FOTS campaign. Even if you don't own the base game, it still uses the same launcher.
Last edited by Eddie G; Jan 26 @ 9:08am
Eddie G Jan 26 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by Iron Knights:
You can lead a donkey to water, but can't make him drink. :gobble: :blackstone:Ancient Chinese Secret - Lo Wang.

It's a horse not a donkey and it's not a Chinese saying. I'm pretty sure it started in the old west in America in the 1800s.
Last edited by Eddie G; Jan 26 @ 8:26am
Tembies Jan 26 @ 9:34am 
I really don't understand. Manual saving used to be the overwhelming norm in most games, and is still incredibly common. Highly suggest leaning into the practice.

OP is either completely new to video games, young enough that manual saving isn't something they've encountered, or just trolling. The only three options that really make sense, and the answer to all is just have manual saves.
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