why battles in shogun 2 looks so good , compare to Warhammer games , and Rome 2 total war ?

[gimlikos84]

Its so satisfying to see battles in Shogun 2.Total war warhammer looks so bad when I see battles.I feel like 2 armies does nothing , except dancing on the battlefield forever.You dont feel the impact , and the physics.

[Lack of Stuff]

Can't speak for Rome 2 cause it sucks but Warhammer battles are typically more drawn out due to lower morale shocks, cavalry has similarly less impact. Shogun 2 battles are very fast paced with a single rear charge capable of breaking a unit and starting a chain rout.

There also more stat bonuses in Warhammer which change things up.

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:

Can't speak for Rome 2 cause it sucks but Warhammer battles are typically more drawn out due to lower morale shocks, cavalry has similarly less impact. Shogun 2 battles are very fast paced with a single rear charge capable of breaking a unit and starting a chain rout.

There also more stat bonuses in Warhammer which change things up.

It's also that, if you look at stats, melee units just tend to have better defensive stats in Warhammer relative to offensive stats, as well. Empire spearmen have 20 MA and 42 MD. Empire swordsmen have 32 MA and MD. And the units that do have better offensive than defensive stats don't perform well, because they're vulnerable to the game's more deadly missiles and artillery (and there's magic, too). Meanwhile, in Shogun 2, even yari ashigaru have more MA than MD. I think only yari samurai and their variants have more MD than MA. So when you have two offensively focused units fighting each other, it's going to lend itself to quicker fights.

[gimlikos84]

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:

Can't speak for Rome 2 cause it sucks but Warhammer battles are typically more drawn out due to lower morale shocks, cavalry has similarly less impact. Shogun 2 battles are very fast paced with a single rear charge capable of breaking a unit and starting a chain rout.

There also more stat bonuses in Warhammer which change things up.

It's also that, if you look at stats, melee units just tend to have better defensive stats in Warhammer relative to offensive stats, as well. Empire spearmen have 20 MA and 42 MD. Empire swordsmen have 32 MA and MD. And the units that do have better offensive than defensive stats don't perform well, because they're vulnerable to the game's more deadly missiles and artillery (and there's magic, too). Meanwhile, in Shogun 2, even yari ashigaru have more MA than MD. I think only yari samurai and their variants have more MD than MA. So when you have two offensively focused units fighting each other, it's going to lend itself to quicker fights.

Maybe thats why its so good seeing battles in Shogun 2, and Rome 1, and Empire total war.At the end its just a game , and battles should be fun to watch.Thats why I hate health bar in the newer total war games

[Aen Kenji]

Battles in shogun 2 to me are just a lot more pleasing. Matchlocks guns sound thunderous and are devastating when a volley hits an enemy. Cavalry charges and flanking attacks feel incredibly impactful. Just looking at the individual soldiers in each unit when they are fighting you can see them make attacks and blocks that look very "real" and pleasing instead of just hitting each others health bar away.

[gimlikos84]

Originally posted by Aen Kenji:

Battles in shogun 2 to me are just a lot more pleasing. Matchlocks guns sound thunderous and are devastating when a volley hits an enemy. Cavalry charges and flanking attacks feel incredibly impactful. Just looking at the individual soldiers in each unit when they are fighting you can see them make attacks and blocks that look very "real" and pleasing instead of just hitting each others health bar away.

Im with you