Tokugawa Legendary Campaign (Vanilla)

[Shiro]

How the hell do I win this?

I finally managed to last for a few years, fending off the Oda and Kitabatake clans... managed to claim Owari and Ise. But then the Ikko-Ikki completely obliterated me in a couple of turns...

I'm pretty good in the RTS battles but the campaign map kicks my ass everytime.... one little mistake and that's it for the Tokugawa on Legendary difficulty.

Any of you seasoned veteranes have any useful tips for starting and getting a solid foothold with this clan?

[pLOp0]

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[Mile pro Libertate]

Yeah the Ikko-Ikki always end up being a pain in the ass, especially for Tokugawa, or Oda and Takeda.

I don't really like to play as Tokugawa past the early game. Just like Hojo or Oda, the fun part for me is in the early stages, and then it just gets boring.

I found when confronting the Ikko-Ikki as another clan,, it really helps to cultivate good relations with another large "super clan," so I imagine that strategy would work for Tokugawa too.

Usually Takeda gets into war with Ikko-Ikki pretty early on, and Takeda also typically turns into a powerhouse, so I try to keep good relations with them in order to have a strong ally. It's much easier to deal with the Ikko-Ikki when you have supporting armies from a big ally.

[WellMad]

The way I normaly deal with them (When my game worked it doest at the moment =-[) is to let them seiege a castle but have euff troops that they Try to Stave you out but I have another general near it that can do night acttacks, and I use that one to kill 1-2 stacks in 1-2 battles and ten I rush ikko and Make lots of vasels cus I cannot deal with the unhappy ness or cost of owning them, then I also gain extra unit to help repair some my own units. also as ikko is NOT at war with the vasels, he cannot just acttack you back, he needs to make war with the vasels which takes 1 turn, so if needed you get 1 turn from his order for war and second one to heal or pull back =]. If he acttacks the vasel I tend to pull back and let him acttack it, weaking him and also they DONT tend to acttack move on. whih ments I can then acttack his units in a Damaged castle/fort etc =]