Shogun 2 Vanilla or Fall of the samurai

[juansarus]

I am thinking to buy one of them but i dont know which better
whichs are the differences in the campaigns and multiplayer?

[Mile pro Libertate]

Shogun 2 is traditional TW fighting with spears, swords and bows, and only primitive firearms (arquebuse) that arrive later in the game, and which may not make any real impact on your campaign at all, whereas FotS has 19th century weapons and systems, including advanced artillery and steamships.

Both games have a "realm divide" late in the campaign where the factions take two sides: in Shogun 2 it's pretty much Player vs. Rest of the Country, and in FotS it's Imperial vs. Shogunal govt. so the player will usually have strong AI allies, all the way to the end. This arguably makes the Shogun 2 campaign more challenging.

The multiplayer is a hybrid, and you can fight FotS armies of other players even if you're using a traditional Shogun 2 army, for example. But if you don't want to do that, you can always setup or search for a game that only allows for the forces of one of the eras. Both eras allow sieges, field and naval battles in multiplayer.

Those are pretty much the main things to know.

Both are very good games. I'd suggest just getting both when you see a good deal: if you are a TW fan, you won't regret it.

If you only want one, I guess it comes down to preferred time period or type of military history you enjoy the most.

If you always had hoped Empire and Napoleon had more to offer, and wanted to see a blackpowder era TW more than anything, you'll probably love FotS.

If you thought Med 2 was the best thing since sliced bread, and think TW is only TW when a guy is getting his head taken off with a two handed sword, then you'll probably enjoy Shogun 2 more than FotS.

[PrivateXTC]

Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:

Both games have a "realm divide" late in the campaign where the factions take two sides: in Shogun 2 it's pretty much Player vs. Rest of the Country, and in FotS it's Imperial vs. Shogunal govt. so the player will usually have strong AI allies, all the way to the end. This arguably makes the Shogun 2 campaign more challenging.

You can go independant with Fall of the Samurai's realm divide making it the same as Shogun 2's realm divide. You don't have to choose a side at all.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by ThatGuy:

Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:

Both games have a "realm divide" late in the campaign where the factions take two sides: in Shogun 2 it's pretty much Player vs. Rest of the Country, and in FotS it's Imperial vs. Shogunal govt. so the player will usually have strong AI allies, all the way to the end. This arguably makes the Shogun 2 campaign more challenging.

You can go independant with Fall of the Samurai's realm divide making it the same as Shogun 2's realm divide. You don't have to choose a side at all.

True, but you can't choose a side in Shogun 2 vanilla.

[juansarus]

Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:

Shogun 2 is traditional TW fighting with spears, swords and bows, and only primitive firearms (arquebuse) that arrive later in the game, and which may not make any real impact on your campaign at all, whereas FotS has 19th century weapons and systems, including advanced artillery and steamships.

Both games have a "realm divide" late in the campaign where the factions take two sides: in Shogun 2 it's pretty much Player vs. Rest of the Country, and in FotS it's Imperial vs. Shogunal govt. so the player will usually have strong AI allies, all the way to the end. This arguably makes the Shogun 2 campaign more challenging.

The multiplayer is a hybrid, and you can fight FotS armies of other players even if you're using a traditional Shogun 2 army, for example. But if you don't want to do that, you can always setup or search for a game that only allows for the forces of one of the eras. Both eras allow sieges, field and naval battles in multiplayer.

Those are pretty much the main things to know.

Both are very good games. I'd suggest just getting both when you see a good deal: if you are a TW fan, you won't regret it.

If you only want one, I guess it comes down to preferred time period or type of military history you enjoy the most.

If you always had hoped Empire and Napoleon had more to offer, and wanted to see a blackpowder era TW more than anything, you'll probably love FotS.

If you thought Med 2 was the best thing since sliced bread, and think TW is only TW when a guy is getting his head taken off with a two handed sword, then you'll probably enjoy Shogun 2 more than FotS.

One more question if i buy Fots can i play the online mode maps of vanilla and the units of vanilla or i cant?

[Brave and Fearless Sir Shiba]

as far as i know you can play on the same maps that vanilla have but youll be restricted to FOTS clans/units since youll have to make a FOTS avatar general. and to use the vanilla units on online youd have to make a vanilla avatar which of course needs vanilla S2

[JonJomate]

Personally i prefer Vanilla, the theme and era appeals to me more, FotS is a clash between two worlds. You also constantly have to take harsh trade offs in FotS since you need modern military but will upset your people with every modernization.

Just take a look at a few videos, the look of the campaign map, the icons, the units and so on and make a decision.

[Brotherscompany]

Vanilla.
FoTS the Al is super ret@rd and abuses the hell out of bombardment plus the navy spam its loses fun after 30h
l have like 900h on vanilla

[juansarus]

Gold edition is worth?? the edition have most of dlc and the three campaigns

[easytarget]

Regardless which way you go, unless you're dying to play right now, wait till it goes on sale for 75% off, which it does fairly regularly. Then you can pick it up and all the DLC for far less than the cost of just the game itself at launch.