Nanban trade ships - The Best?

[MaseyMase]

Are Nanban trade ships good as combat ships? Are they the best recruitable ship in mid game (only have access to heavy bunes rn)

[THEDOSSBOSS]

The black ship is the best. Nanbans are good but very vulnerable to musket, firebomb, and cannon ships, not to mention fire arrows

[MaseyMase]

Are all the men on board combatants? It says it has 320, but without a sword or bow symbol. Are the people onboard melee fighters?

[THEDOSSBOSS]

Originally posted by Masey Mase:

Are all the men on board combatants? It says it has 320, but without a sword or bow symbol. Are the people onboard melee fighters?

They are matchlock and regular sailures. I'd say slightly better than the matchlock ashigaru on matchlock ships in melee. Cannons destroy all boarding vessels though so melee is the least of your concerns. Fire arrows are the greatest concern in my opinion

[easytarget]

I always auto resolve naval, from that perspective nanban are very effective.

[MaseyMase]

Originally posted by THEDOSSBOSS:

Originally posted by Masey Mase:

Are all the men on board combatants? It says it has 320, but without a sword or bow symbol. Are the people onboard melee fighters?

They are matchlock and regular sailures. I'd say slightly better than the matchlock ashigaru on matchlock ships in melee. Cannons destroy all boarding vessels though so melee is the least of your concerns. Fire arrows are the greatest concern in my opinion

I checked, their melee stats are basically the same as Heavy Bunes

[rory.b.p]

Thet are beastly basically 1 can take out a full stack with med level casualties.
Their matchlocks are more devastating then their cannons just because their cannons rarely hit non stationary targets.
Fire arrows are annoying because they force you to put out the fire but even then... you just have so many people and so much Hull hp you will win even against a stack of bow koboya spamming fire arrows.

If you want to play around with them a Mori Christian campaign is a fun way to do it.

[MaseyMase]

Whenever I have played with them I've never seen the guys on the ship firing rifles though?

[Ventorii]

Was doing an Otomo Playthrough and my navy could not be stopped using nanban trade ships. At least until the enemy captured the Black ship then I ran into a few problems however eventually I captured the black ship and I literally controlled the entire naval theatre from that point on.

[Voltronjeremy]

Originally posted by easytarget:

I always auto resolve naval, from that perspective nanban are very effective.

This. Don't bother wasting time on a battle, since you'll always win the autoresolve. You won't even take damage most of the time (cannon bunes are the exception).

Nanbans are the best part of going Christian. You basically get to ignore the naval aspect of the game for the rest of the game.