Agents

[Dark Lord Tony]

Do your maxed assassin ever got executed while sabotaging an army with an 87% success rate? And i know there are more chances of him running away than being killed as i also put points into that trait.

[BastardSword]

Agents always have a chance of being executed when failing an action. I've failed 95% chance of success actions many times.

[Dark Lord Tony]

Oh i see another unlucky brother

[easytarget]

The threads I enjoy on this topic are from those seeking to save scum the agent outcome and discovering that doesn't work as reload after reload has the same outcome.

There is however a trick to changing the outcome. ;)

And if I'm not mistaken it's mandated as a forum rule that every other thread in an xcom forum must be a complaint about missing a shot with 90+% chance to hit.

[Dark Lord Tony]

its called being unlucky

[easytarget]

Sure but you can also ameliorate the downsides of such outcomes by anticipating them, that's part of the game.

[Red Spot]

Or ya just save-scum a wee little bit and circumnavigate the whole moment of ever losing a high ranking agent.

[Dark Lord Tony]

how the heck can i anticipate my agent will die when i assassinate a 1 star metsuke

[easytarget]

Not that hard actually, I just make sure to have more than one fully ranked agent of each type hanging about by mid campaign just for such occasions.

[Dark Lord Tony]

now i remember about my 5 stars metsuke getting aprehended by a 1 star one

[markeason]

Use a monk to convert an enemy metsuke. Do not try to assassinate him

[markeason]

Originally posted by Tony cu I:

Do your maxed assassin ever got executed while sabotaging an army with an 87% success rate? And i know there are more chances of him running away than being killed as i also put points into that trait.

Returning to the Original Post - obviously there is a 13% chance of failure for the sabotage act. You state that your agent had points in running away - was this Avoid Detection skill or Escape skill?

Was there a Metsuke stacked with the army being sabotaged?

With appropriate skills, your agent should have very low odds of being executed if caught, far more likely to go be arrested and imprisoned for a short period.

If there was a metsuke with the army, it is best to remove that with a monk, before attempting the sabotage by ninja. The presence of a metsuke increases the likelihood of detection, apprehension and execution of your ninja on those 13 times in 100 that he fails this mission.

[Dark Lord Tony]

now there wasnt a metsuke it was like a few meters away and the points are escape half and the other half avoid detection

[markeason]

Originally posted by Tony cu I:

now there wasnt a metsuke it was like a few meters away and the points are escape half and the other half avoid detection

If you don't mind me asking, can you recall exactly where the points were spent in the ninja's skill tree.

To be level 5 and have points in both escape and avoid detection intrigues me, (I never put points into these, but do take retainers that boost them).

At level 5, you will have spent 8 points on skills. I am guessing:

1 point in Saboteur to unlock Misdirection
3 points in Misdirection to maximise Army Sabotage

Which leaves 4 points to go elsewhere, of which 3 must have been spread over Spy, Infiltrator and Master of Disguise in order to get both Escape and Avoid Detection skills.

Is that correct?

[Dark Lord Tony]

yup

[markeason]

You might be better going straight down the assassination route after Misdirection.

2 points Assassin
1 point Exotic Weapons
1 point Poisoner
2 points Notorious Killer

I find that works very well for my ninjas for Sabotaging Armies / Assassination - which are the most useful traits in the way that I use them.

Was you ninja executed when he failed the sabotage attempt, or was it after failing that he was taken out by the level 1 Metsuke? I am struggling to understand from the thread what happened.

In other words, if he was taken out by the Metsuke, this would also have happened if he had succeeded in sabotaging the army, so has nothing to do with the 80+% chance of success, but is down to the level 1 Metsuke's abilities