Is fire by rank meant to suck?

[Fegelein]

Its just so insanely slow!
What is the best way to fix/compensate for it
EDIT: I'm taling about the shogun 2 campain, not fots

[Sulphur]

not using fire by rank
it's broken anyway, best strat is to stretch your gunners to maximize firepower

edit: 600h and not figured that out yet ?

[Askindale]

Originally posted by Le chevalier de Mortecouille:

not using fire by rank
it's broken anyway, best strat is to stretch your gunners to maximize firepower

edit: 600h and not figured that out yet ?

you'd be suprised :D

[Askindale]

Originally posted by Le chevalier de Mortecouille:

not using fire by rank
it's broken anyway, best strat is to stretch your gunners to maximize firepower

edit: 600h and not figured that out yet ?

took me 100 hours to figure out you could repair buildings

[Fegelein]

Originally posted by Le chevalier de Mortecouille:

not using fire by rank
it's broken anyway, best strat is to stretch your gunners to maximize firepower

edit: 600h and not figured that out yet ?

I did figure that much out, just hoping I somehow missed a mod that fixes it

[easytarget]

Everything weapon wise is so OP in FOTS, you'd have to conciously try to lose in any campaign where you've got fire by rank because all it takes to win any campaign in FOTS is line infantry combined with parrott guns, armstrong guns and gatling guns.

Don't get me wrong, I love FOTS, but it's in my view ridiculously easy compared to Shogun 2, in no small part for the reason I listed above and because RD's impact has been greatly softened.

Net: fire by rank working or not working all that well, not really an issue...;)

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

As far i know fire by ranks is acteuly quite good.
Only problem is that the entire unit needs line of sight so if there is a small hill in the way the entire unit has move, most likley under fire....

[Sulphur]

Oh, I was thinking about the fire by rank ability in shogun 2

[Soft Taco]

Ive noticed it as well. Whenever I use company sized elements with rifles I ALWAYS stretch them to their smallest ranks and then activate the rank by fire ability. This way you have maximum soldiers ready and on file to shoot, and the others right behind ready to fire the next volley. Dont ever leave your rifle company formations with more than 4 ranks. The last 2 ranks and so on are doing nothing but filling slots for other dead soldiers in the front.

[Fegelein]

Originally posted by Le chevalier de Mortecouille:

Oh, I was thinking about the fire by rank ability in shogun 2

yeah me too, its called kneel fire in FOTS

[easytarget]

Ah, sorry, in that case ignore my earlier comment. If we're talking shogun 2 I've no real comment as I've never bothered using guns to win any campaign (even when playing Otomo).

[Sulphur]

Kneel fire in fots is actually good, given that you stretch your troops to make only 2 ranks

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by Fegelein:

Its just so insanely slow!
What is the best way to fix/compensate for it
EDIT: I'm taling about the shogun 2 campain, not fots

The absolute best way to maximize fire by rank in the regular, Sengoku campaign is:

- Use bamboo pallisades/walls, as well as archers wooden shields, to create barriers.

If it isn't a defensive battle, and/or you didn't have the time to let your stack sit and get them, then the next best options for rank fire are:

- Use natural "walls," such as any village fences or low lying farm structures (so they don't block line of sight)

- Use sheer rock faces or other impassable ground to keep enemy units from running directly into the matchlocks; cover the remaing open approaches with ashigaru in yari wall

- Place the matchlocks on high ground behind your main line of infantry, so they can shoot over their heads into the enemy, but still benefit from the friendly line forming a barrier.

And then, the general guidelines that alwats apply, some of which have already been touched on:

- Don't bother putting them in more than 4 ranks, unless you have a very small space to defend (doorway or bridgehead)

- Usually it's best to stretch to 2 ranks in "the open" (where you don't have a barrier of some kind), because realistically there will only be time for two volleys before enemy closes

- Make sure the matchlocks have all finished their reloading animations before you give a move order, so they are actually ready to fire when you set them up.

- If possible, keep them within a general's aura, or even better, inside a Stand and Fight aura

- Try to recruit matchlocks from provinces that give accuracy bonuses

- Buff your matchlocks to get as much xp as possible, to increase firing rate and accuracy. At the end of battles, have your matchlocks do as much mopping up and shooting as possible on routers to raise xp; always merge fragments of depleted matchlocks so new recruits don't dilute xp.

[Hannibal Barca]

Download better matchlock mods it increases range and gives kneel fire 🔥

[Tocki]

Originally posted by easytarget:

Everything weapon wise is so OP in FOTS, you'd have to conciously try to lose in any campaign where you've got fire by rank because all it takes to win any campaign in FOTS is line infantry combined with parrott guns, armstrong guns and gatling guns.

Don't get me wrong, I love FOTS, but it's in my view ridiculously easy compared to Shogun 2, in no small part for the reason I listed above and because RD's impact has been greatly softened.

Net: fire by rank working or not working all that well, not really an issue...;)

What does your comment have to do with the actual topic?!

[easytarget]

Tocki,

Don't be a dumbass and read the entire thread again. That was already covered. So the question now is what the ♥♥♥♥ are you doing in this thread? And if you don't have a constructive answer to that question ♥♥♥♥ off.