The frustration

[Skull kid]

Playing as Tosa in FoTS, beginning the campaign by conquering my own island while trying to form alliances with Satsuma & Choshu, as they're getting stronger. Suddenly clan A joins the shogunate and the next turn declare war on me and disembark an invasion force far behind my army. That's ok, they're not that big, l'll just run back after l've taken this town.


But on my way there, Satsuma, who is the biggest imperial clan, joins the shogunate, declare war on me AND invade Iyo (most western province in Shikoku). Oh dear, they're huge, but l'm about to start bulding Armstrongs, so l'll try (even though l'll probably die). Plus if l manage to annihilate their invasion force l'll be able to invade them without bigger effort.

But no, turns out Satsuma is allied to Cho-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-shu, who happens to be the second biggest imperial clan. Of course they join the war on Satsuma's side, despite we both being imperial clans. Choshu is also allied to two other, smaller imperial clans who also declare war on me. They were in turn allied to other imperial clans who eventually would declare war as well.


It went so well for a while, but after three measly turns l was at war against almost every imperial clan. Feeling l'm neither strong nor good enough, l gave up :p

Just had to vent my frustration :D

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

What difficulty did you play on? From my expierence the AI loves to gang up on the player on higher difficulties.

[Skull kid]

It was on Hard. l've played a few campaigns on hard before, but this kind of stuff has only happened to me in vanilla, never in FoTS.

[rory.b.p]

Originally posted by Skull kid:

It was on Hard. l've played a few campaigns on hard before, but this kind of stuff has only happened to me in vanilla, never in FoTS.

Did you perchance sell any sneaky military access... because on Hard mode thats like dropping your pants bending over and saying ''over here Daddy''.

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

Originally posted by Skull kid:

It was on Hard. l've played a few campaigns on hard before, but this kind of stuff has only happened to me in vanilla, never in FoTS.

For me this happens also in FoTS.
And its a difficulty thing. The AI gets economic bonuses on harder difficulties, better economy means the AI can afford more and better armies. especially In the early game the AI will have better and more armies then the player. The AI will see that the player has an weaker army and then attack him. And because in the early game all AI's will have better armies than the player the AI will gang up up on the player.

[Skull kid]

Originally posted by rory.b.p:

Originally posted by Skull kid:

It was on Hard. l've played a few campaigns on hard before, but this kind of stuff has only happened to me in vanilla, never in FoTS.

Did you perchance sell any sneaky military access... because on Hard mode thats like dropping your pants bending over and saying ''over here Daddy''.

Hahaha, actually, no. l've entertained that thought though, since most clans seem to get a hard on from military access. But l guess l'll drop that idea now :p

[Pintaar]

Same ♥♥♥♥ in my campaign today. Im playing Tosa and within 5 turns i had 7 new enemies and 5 invading armies and 4 fleets nuking my island. The AI is retarded. Its like all clans " Hey lets all be friends and violate that island"

[easytarget]

If you want even more amusement, change sides and watch your neighbors switch to the other side so they can pick right back up attacking you.

So yes, this is clearly scripted to happen no matter what you do.

[Skull kid]

That sounds absurd, since Tosa is said to have an easy initial challenge...

[Catteus Of Mars]

feels like one or another patch has tweaked the ai behaviour... this hardly ever happened before now on every single campaign and faction. no matter how good relations they just gank and because you being ganked rest join in for the fun game of kick when he down

[LuNi]

I had probably my best legendary run by far in FOTS ruined by this very same thing. I was playing satsuma and suddenly every single imperial faction decided to abandon Imperial cause and declare war on me on turn 14.

The thing I've learned when playing with this AI is that you don't have any friends. You happen to border a friendly clan and they are not in war with someone. Those idiots swap allegiance to have an excuse to declare war on you.

I use my propaganda agents to incite revolts in friendly provices with the same allegiance to get rid of them without risking a war.

Just destroy everyone. No reason letting them be when they betray you anyway.

[Skull kid]

Originally posted by LuNi:

I had probably my best legendary run by far in FOTS ruined by this very same thing. I was playing satsuma and suddenly every single imperial faction decided to abandon Imperial cause and declare war on me on turn 14.

The thing I've learned when playing with this AI is that you don't have any friends. You happen to border a friendly clan and they are not in war with someone. Those idiots swap allegiance to have an excuse to declare war on you.

I use my propaganda agents to incite revolts in friendly provices with the same allegiance to get rid of them without risking a war.

Just destroy everyone. No reason letting them be when they betray you anyway.

Read this while listening to Imperial March XD Use backdoor politics to exterminate your "friends" (y)