Was Yari Wall ever fixed?

[minerunknown]

Or is it still capable of letting a single yari ashigaru with no veterancy win against samurai units or improved ashigaru units.

[Multihog]

Originally posted by Sn3z:

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I stand corrected. Clearly you're right. I checked the unit description, and it indeed refers to their weapons as naginata.

[Jin-]

Hardly ever used and done legendary campaigns like Takeda

[Zombie Hugger]

Originally posted by Jin-:

Hardly ever used and done legendary campaigns like Takeda

I mean, I went 1,000+ hours without ever thinking to use something as simple as it, but it sure as hell works

[GAMER01]

Originally posted by minerunknown:

Or is it still capable of letting a single yari ashigaru with no veterancy win against samurai units or improved ashigaru units.

have you not heard of flanking?

[minerunknown]

Originally posted by BEDLAM72:

Originally posted by minerunknown:

Or is it still capable of letting a single yari ashigaru with no veterancy win against samurai units or improved ashigaru units.

have you not heard of flanking?

I find there are MANY situations in shogun 2 where flanking simply isn't possible.
It also doesn't help that the units automatically engage anything within 50 meters regardless of orders. I'm not saying I personally have an issue with Yari Wall, it's simply that I hear about it constantly and have little to no experience with it myself, so I was interested in wether it's the same as everyone remembers it.
(Afterall, I want the most powerful army possible. Knowledge is required in that regard.)

[THEDOSSBOSS]

Originally posted by minerunknown:

Originally posted by BEDLAM72:

have you not heard of flanking?

I find there are MANY situations in shogun 2 where flanking simply isn't possible.
It also doesn't help that the units automatically engage anything within 50 meters regardless of orders. I'm not saying I personally have an issue with Yari Wall, it's simply that I hear about it constantly and have little to no experience with it myself, so I was interested in wether it's the same as everyone remembers it.
(Afterall, I want the most powerful army possible. Knowledge is required in that regard.)

Well then, know that flanking is almost always possible. Any competent player can find an opening, it just depends how good your micro is. Yari wall is great, but people who use it rely on it way too much in multiplayer. They are easily overwhelmed and ashigaru in multiplayer are the easiest thing in the world to shatter

As for single player. You will always find a flank no matter what. The AI is incompetent beyond compare. The AI rarely uses yari wall to begin with, and there's a bug that a shattered yari ashigaru in yari wall won't route, but a single rear charge front practically any unit will break an AI's yari ashigaru no matter the formation

[minerunknown]

Originally posted by THEDOSSBOSS:

Originally posted by minerunknown:

I find there are MANY situations in shogun 2 where flanking simply isn't possible.
It also doesn't help that the units automatically engage anything within 50 meters regardless of orders. I'm not saying I personally have an issue with Yari Wall, it's simply that I hear about it constantly and have little to no experience with it myself, so I was interested in wether it's the same as everyone remembers it.
(Afterall, I want the most powerful army possible. Knowledge is required in that regard.)

Well then, know that flanking is almost always possible. Any competent player can find an opening, it just depends how good your micro is. Yari wall is great, but people who use it rely on it way too much in multiplayer. They are easily overwhelmed and ashigaru in multiplayer are the easiest thing in the world to shatter

As for single player. You will always find a flank no matter what. The AI is incompetent beyond compare. The AI rarely uses yari wall to begin with, and there's a bug that a shattered yari ashigaru in yari wall won't route, but a single rear charge front practically any unit will break an AI's yari ashigaru no matter the formation

I agree the AI is rather ♥♥♥♥♥. Gotta give it credit for not being as bad as ArmA 3 though even if it's older.
As for players, It typically results in a giant mash up of units with maybe a couple on the flanks. I admit im not particuarly skilled in that regard. Especially so when most of my friends refuse PvP in the first place.