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And if it is Valve (not the dev) that is doing it, that is really messed up because someone last week for a different game asked the administrators to delete his review and everyone told him the admins won't lift a finger.
It is rather hypocritcal if Valve was delete some reviews for (insert policy reason here even if it is reasonable) but refuse user requests to do so...
CA has been abusing its power to delete reviews.
Read the steam EUA, it's within the dev's authority to delete whenever they want
But it's, also, the modus operanti of all of those neo-progressists... they simply can't deal with different opinions.
BTW... I'm deleting and negativating all CA games. I will never again buy a game from them... and it's not only because their "positive afirmation agenda", but because I don't want spywares on my PC.
It's a shame that North America, Japan and Europe lack on true consumer defense laws.
Joke is on you. If a company mistreats its customers, if you already bought the game you can't punish them!
Using reviews to complain about anything other than the game itself (For example, complianing about Rome 2 in a Shogun2 review or complaining about their banning people arbitrarily when they have the lesser option of simply locking a thread), is also a bannable offense. It is arguably a misuse of a review to complain in a review "yeah, they treat their customers like trash in the forums" since that has nothing to do with the game itself!
Oh there isn't really a "affirmative action agenda." The spawn rate of female generals is so reidiculously low that to get 4 or more of them in the "ready pool" you have to be lkilling your generals left right and center. If you want to stay away from female generals, you have to be trying to kill your generals unless you disable pausing in battles in which case losing all your generals goes from "you have to be trying to do this" to "possible, but easily avoidable"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIB5ByyXvHU
How do you punish a company after you sank money into their games? I don't know. Some people decided to review bomb. That is not the intended use for the review system and I'm above that nonsense, but to be hoenst I don't don't how anyone can express displeasure with Ella after they already broguht the game. If anyone knows how to punish a company after already buying their product without abusing the review system, I'm all ears.
To add insult to injury, they put this patch into Rome 2 (not so bad in my opnion, but the game could have used a bit of tuning up even if the stability issues are gone), ban people who complained about being forced the patch (I don't agree with the complainers, but that was uncalled for), dobuledown and defend their employee who did that, and then still refuse to support the game in general because it's old. So they spent their time to add int his patch, but still won't support Rome 2???
But as I said the joke is on you. They already have your money. And you can't punish them using the review system. Oh and please don't put a nonsense review for Shogun 2 because of the Rome 2 nonsense. It's still a very pretty game and them abusing their banning powers in the forum doesn't affect that Shogun 2 is still a great game whose biggest stupiddity is not being "Shogun 2: Total War" because of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ marketing.
Shogun 2 have the same problems with "female inclusion", even if in a different rate. And negativate a product is a way to punish a company, because it will make an effect on future selling. It's my right as a consumer to complain about a product, no matter the reason... the only people that have to judge those reviews are the buyiers... and no one, included you, have the right to tell people to not complain about something that they put their money on.
Well, first off all the video clearly shows it's very easy to avoid the "female inclusion" short of massacre your own generals. The spawn rate is in the video. This pretty much makes it optional.
And using the game review to complain about a company being evil (or abusing it's forum powers) rather than the game itself is an abuse of the system. Granted, I'm not sure how people who already paid can punish the company since withholding money is not an option to people who already put their money in...
If you actually think Shogun 2 has the same problem, go ahead and put that in a review if you want. You're the first person I heard complain about it... for this specific game. If you are going to trash the game if you think the game is fine but the company started abusing its customers after its Shogun 2 era but think Shogun 2 is a fine game, just don't. If you must review a game for its customer interactions and not the game, at least save it for the games after customer relations went south.
You can have your opinion about how those updates haven't affected the game... but so do have the people that disagree with you. This is the beautie of freedom of speech.
If you think the female inclusion is a problem in shogun 2 and outweighs the pretty graphical battles, by all means do whatever you want for the reivew of the game you already spent.
If you think the company posture impacts games made after shogun 2 or they are just being abusive to their cutomers while still making good games, that doesn't belong in a Shogun 2 game review. I don't know how a customer who already paid is supposed to punish a company for bad behavior that involves anything other than the game itself to be honest.
And if you trash them in your review, they will delete your review anyways, like they did so many other people's. I mean, they even delete people who complain "my yari samurai should beat an ashigaru yari wall head on if it's 1 vs 1" after the... inccident with their other game. Pretty much any negative review after that inccident gets deleted in a week wheather the negative review is complaining about Rome 2 (in which case deletion is probably justified) or something about Shogun 2 (in which case, they are just mean)
I don't see how they think that this will contain it if anything this will hack them off all the more
this is doubling down on a grand scale
Oh and btw I absolutey support the people leaving the reviews - if you act abusive towards people who are customers - well guess what you get backlash.
Clarify? you don't think that "this will contain" what do you mean by "this"? Do you mean my suggestion that if the OP makes a negative review it's going to be deleted? I'm not saying they are in the right deleting all negative reviews. But any negative review given in the last month or so if he does, it's going to be deleted and steam gives them absolute authrity to do so. And some come with a forum ban just because they feel like it.
Do you mean that deleting negative reviews is going to not contain the backlash? I seriously doubt they care given that the 3 Kingdoms is expected to sell like hotcakes despite their mistreatment of their past customers (Rome 2, Attila, and if you buy the OP they just did it on a smaller scale for Shogun 2). Once that sells, the backlash is irrelevent because it just proved they can make money after becoming ruder and more abrasive than EA. Oh, and according to the demos, they forgot how to make animations without clipping issues or all sorts of dumb "look way too CGI" (yes, it's all CGI but it doens't have to look fake) than would have never made it into Shogun 2 or even Rome 1 or 2, so don't buy it.
I think the creators probably deserve some backlash for acting like this way to their past customers, but how? the obvious way to express displeasure is to not buy their proucts. They already got their past customer's money. People can't get them back. And reviews are meant to asses a game, not what the company did in the future that isn't the game itself. So are the only options "let them off the hook" or "negative review for Shogun 2 for something they did long after Shogun 2 that isn't related to Shogun 2?"
CA didn't liked to get negativated, so CA deleted peoples reviews insted of work in what disapointed people at the first place.
The market is free and a lot of those people who were not listened (but silenced) will never buy an CA game again (at least a great part of them).
There were a lot of ways for CA to solve this misunderstud. They coud simple added an option ingame for players to choose between the historic and gender equal gameplay (they could even add a bar that goes to 100% man to 100% female generals and/or leaders... and that could be very cool). The problem is making a bad decision like that and go-buuhuu because most people don't like.
Total war is a niche videogame series... getting indisposed with their public is a great step into fail. People don't like agendas pushed into their entreteinment... simple as that. If you want to raise banners be ready to make enemies. It's not the first time that happened.
But deleting all reviews is going too far. It's because they don't want to bother spending time on money having live people read every review to see if it's right-wing propaganda or not. If I'd written a review I'd be pretty annoyed, but I'd place most of the blame on these entitled anti-SJW manchildren.
Yeah, but what does changing Rome 2 have to do with Shogun 2? Put the bad review there, unless you think there is a problem with Shogun 2 say for example with female inclusion in which case I suppose if you think Shogun 2 has a problem put it there.
Joke is on them since 3 Kingdoms is expected to sell like hotcakes (I'll repeat again, they totally went cheapo on the graphics there and not worth the money unless they do some major improvments, but it's still expected to sell).
They already have your money. And mine. Fortunatly, I only got Shogun 2 (disk version) and FOTS (steam version) and not the game they bungled. My point being is even if they made an enemy out of you, they don't care. They have your money. They expect to make so much off their new release and prove they can piss off their entire old customer base without consquences. I wish this wasn't the case, but most industry marketers from inside their own company and outside observers are sure of their next big game going well.
And It's not only Rome 2... they patched ALL their TA series. Rome 2 was the worst. And they also added a spyware in all their games.
As I said: Negative reviews are not the ideal, but is the only way, in short terms, to express what we thought about it all.