Total War: SHOGUN 2

Total War: SHOGUN 2

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Any way to remove agents (ninjas, monks, metsuke)?
i like to play on harder difficulties, and i feel like AI's agent chances are much higher than they normally are. Plus, usually, they just snowball with their agents and you see them running around with 5 stars on your territory.
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Iceira Mar 8, 2017 @ 6:51am 
thats because you buy them to late and dont train them fast enough, never let a agent stay in the open if he has no task, either inside a army or castle to gain XP

ps.
to remove agents from game , then its like play a RTS with brute force and no way to change a battle outcome. ( you have to look in mod sections for that if such is even made ) but that idea
is a NO way for many of us ) and you do know you can kill the agent with right type of other agent ( metsuke kill ninja and ninja kill monks and monks convert metsuke )
so you cant get a uber agent he has a weakspot for other right type.

ps.
also you can cheat abit in single player campaign save the game, if fail a task with agent then move him abit and wola sometimes this force a new caculation on it, but dont aspect to win with newly hired agent over a 5star agent.

but if you have boosted the right province and get a level4 newly hired agent then you will be the dominated power overtime, this game can actual be won with agent and a lesser good commander in the battlefield, several steam users has confirm this.
Last edited by Iceira; Mar 8, 2017 @ 7:04am
easytarget Mar 8, 2017 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Daniel Potter:
i like to play on harder difficulties, and i feel like AI's agent chances are much higher than they normally are. Plus, usually, they just snowball with their agents and you see them running around with 5 stars on your territory.
Groom your own starting early in your campaign and you can fight fire with fire and easily win this battle. Agents are one of the most OP tools at your disposal, you just need to plan and do some groundwork getting them ready for when you need them.
Daniel Potter Mar 9, 2017 @ 10:45am 
i acknowledge that they are OP, which is why i am writing this message. I had like one game for Shimuza, where my neighbor sent a ninja, which then killed all my generals, including damiyo. By the time i made a market and trained a matsuke, it was too late (he was like lvl 5).

I liked playing with agents in my early playthroughs. The videos and all were really nice to watch. And personally i took down all generals in Kyoto, before attacking it, which made the job really easy.

That said, in the end, i personally feel that there is just no "reward" feeling in playing with agents. All you do is pray to RNJesus. I think there should be like some "advanced options" to turn off/on stuff you want.
Daniel Potter Mar 9, 2017 @ 11:54am 
oh also, i really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate when metsukes just buy your whole army, just like that. Feels so cheap.
Originally posted by Daniel Potter:
oh also, i really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate when metsukes just buy your whole army, just like that. Feels so cheap.
I've literally never had that happen.

I wish it did...add some flavor to the campaign and some unexpected challenge.

It's probably because I keep general's loyalty high and put my own metsuke in stacks, especially stacks lead by captains.

I also have a tendency to disband stacks when I don't need them, so maybe that's why I haven't seen this.

I also kill enemy metsuke as quickly as possible when I see them 😆

But yeah, I have never once lost a stack to bribery, even a half stack. I have seen a few units get bribed, either out of the stack or as reinforcements, like two ashigaru coming from a castle an route to my army might get bribed.
Daniel Potter Mar 9, 2017 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:
Originally posted by Daniel Potter:
oh also, i really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate when metsukes just buy your whole army, just like that. Feels so cheap.
I've literally never had that happen.

I wish it did...add some flavor to the campaign and some unexpected challenge.

It's probably because I keep general's loyalty high and put my own metsuke in stacks, especially stacks lead by captains.

I also have a tendency to disband stacks when I don't need them, so maybe that's why I haven't seen this.

I also kill enemy metsuke as quickly as possible when I see them 😆

But yeah, I have never once lost a stack to bribery, even a half stack. I have seen a few units get bribed, either out of the stack or as reinforcements, like two ashigaru coming from a castle an route to my army might get bribed.
Well, personally it happened to me once when i went to take over Shikoku (i was Shimazu). It was pretty early in the game, and it might have been a new general. But i didn't expect the metsuke to just take down my whole army (he wasn't even leveled up, and my army was pretty big).
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Date Posted: Mar 8, 2017 @ 2:13am
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