We need Saturn and Dreamcast games

[-$ilver-]

It's great we have this bundle of classics of Genesis games, but they can be had from other places. Consoles, retro plug and play TV consoles, game bundles, etc. But we rarely have any Saturn or Dreamcast games, I mean a whole library of them. People would pay for them if they could get them legit and reasonably priced. Otherwise they have to resort to other means, stealing or paying over priced for used physical copies of games that the devs and or Sega will not see a dime on. It would be nice to have a note worthy collection on Steam. Devs and or Sega gets money and we get the games. It's a win win situation.

[Tanoomba]

Agreed!
I've got a decent collection of Saturn and Dreamcast games, and I'd happily buy them all again for the convenience of having them on Steam.

[Ikagura]

And Master System and Game Gear as well.

[Mobile Suit God Damn]

From what I remember from some issue of Retro Gamer from a while back Sega are not happy with the state of Saturn or Dreamcast emulation right now so that's why we have yet to see any package like this Genesis one. It's not like they'll spend their own money or time to develop good emulators.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

From what I remember from some issue of Retro Gamer from a while back Sega are not happy with the state of Saturn or Dreamcast emulation right now so that's why we have yet to see any package like this Genesis one. It's not like they'll spend their own money or time to develop good emulators. :chuchelcrazy:

Saturn emulation hasn't been as good as before. It evolved really fast in 10 years.

[Crypto Carlos]

They're not going to give you say, 30 Dreamcast games in a collection like this when they can re-sell them piecemeal at $20-30+ a pop. As for Saturn, that is still a thorny system to emulate which is why I imagine they haven't done any Saturn game re-releases/a mini Saturn yet.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Mola Ram:

They're not going to give you say, 30 Dreamcast games in a collection like this when they can re-sell them piecemeal at $20-30+ a pop. As for Saturn, that is still a thorny system to emulate which is why I imagine they haven't done any Saturn game re-releases/a mini Saturn yet.

That's because Dreamcast games are much larger in scope compared to a simple 8/16-bit 2D game on the Master System or Mega Drive, so it's a lot easier to bundle those simpler games in a much larger collection without the costs of putting it all together being too high whereas it's a lot easier to justify selling a Saturn or Dreamcast game individually like we saw with NiGHTS Into Dreams.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/219950/NiGHTS_Into_Dreams/

As for why a mini Saturn doesn't exist yet - it would likely fail for the same reasons the PlayStation Classic failed, hence why SEGA haven't provided a mini Saturn console yet, especially given that there are even less worthwhile games on the Saturn.

[-$ilver-]

Originally posted by Mola Ram:

They're not going to give you say, 30 Dreamcast games in a collection like this when they can re-sell them piecemeal at $20-30+ a pop. As for Saturn, that is still a thorny system to emulate which is why I imagine they haven't done any Saturn game re-releases/a mini Saturn yet.

I was speaking of a collection as much more than what we have available on Steam now. I am not expecting to pay for 30 Dreamcast/Saturn games as a bundle for only $20. But it would be nice to have each game at a reasonable price. Or a whole bundle for a reasonable price as well, if they chose to go that route.

Or forget bundle altogether and just go with "we need more Dreamcast and Saturn games of note worthy prestige on Steam". Something the fans would want to pay money more, but the devs do not make it so expensive that no one bothers. Or at least have decent sales to counter act the high price point. Again these are much older games and what other people are saying, emulated. We are not getting physical copies after all.

[Duckilous]

It'd be also great if there's a big collection of Sega's arcade games, similar to what Capcom did with their Capcom Arcade Stadium series.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Duckilous:

It'd be also great if there's a big collection of Sega's arcade games, similar to what Capcom did with their Capcom Arcade Stadium series.

That doesn't seem too unreasonable. After all, SEGA have actually compiled some of their arcade titles as part of the SEGA Mega Drive Collection on PS2/PSP as unlockable extra content which meant you could play the arcade version of Altered Beast as well as the Mega Drive version in the same package. Imagine how awesome it would be to see SEGA release an entire collection dedicated to their old arcade games.

And it's not just Capcom doing it, either - Namco Museum is another shining example of bringing over past arcade titles onto modern hardware.

[-$ilver-]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

play the arcade version of Altered Beast

I remember seeing that "beast" in the arcade. The voice or sound samples and the transformations on screen were amazing! Still gives me chills when I see it. The home version... not so much. Still a great game though.

[Mobile Suit God Damn]

Lol, I've never seen the arcade version of Altered Beast. While it certainly is a huge step up Elmer Fudd-Zeus still says "Wise fwom youw gwave."

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Lol, I've never seen the arcade version of Altered Beast. While it certainly is a huge step up Elmer Fudd-Zeus still says "Wise fwom youw gwave." :chuchelcrazy:

It's still impressive for an early Genesis game tho.

Actually the compressed voice samples are more nostalgic and charming to me.

[-$ilver-]

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Lol, I've never seen the arcade version of Altered Beast. While it certainly is a huge step up Elmer Fudd-Zeus still says "Wise fwom youw gwave." :chuchelcrazy:

I did not realize the console port had actual cut scenes of transformations. So over all the Genesis port was not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY11wh71LG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSnM5inrdNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5SiCEiCdbs

Did not even know about the NES version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy7hNqRDZvU

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by -$ilver-:

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Lol, I've never seen the arcade version of Altered Beast. While it certainly is a huge step up Elmer Fudd-Zeus still says "Wise fwom youw gwave." :chuchelcrazy:

I did not realize the console port had actual cut scenes of transformations. So over all the Genesis port was not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY11wh71LG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSnM5inrdNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5SiCEiCdbs

Did not even know about the NES version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy7hNqRDZvU

NES ports of Sega games were weird.

[GamerXT]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

And Master System and Game Gear as well.

Top 10 list would be...

Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic Chaos
Phantasy Star
Golden Axe Legend
Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Alex Kidd in Shinobi Land
Shinobi 1
Wonder Boy in Monster Land
Wonder Boy and the Dragon's Trap