Alien Soldier Issues

[Moon Rabbit Sleeper Cell]

I made a forum post earlier describing my issues with the launcher, but after some tinkering around in the settings and testing out numerous games, I am able to run the games in the new launcher smoothly (although some of the games I am sharing via Family Sharing still do not show up)

All of my games run perfectly fine except for Alien Soldier. For some reason whenever I play the game it starts up with choppy audio, and then you realize that the music and the gameplay runs at a slightly faster speed, with some minor frame rate drops. It is strange because none of my other games in the collection do this.

[Ankon]

Hello, this happens to me too.
I think the problem must be because the game in the compilation must be the European PAL version, with the old launcher we had the opposite problem, choppy image and the audio was ok ( I explained it a bit in this post http://steamcommunity.com/app/34270/discussions/0/485622866441793014/ )
and with the new hub the game runs at 60 FPS but that makes the music sound faster than it should too.
The only solution I can think of is to make the Japan NTSC version the default one as that one runs natively at 60Hz and should have no problems.
Other possibel fixes would be to let us choose region in the games or, now that we have workshop, I guess someone could mod in the translated text to the Japaneese version.

Cheers!

[Moon Rabbit Sleeper Cell]

I just managed to find a mod that reverts the game back into its orignal 60Hz version and it works excellent now! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674769616
the game is in english in its japanese version anyway, so I'm totally ok with playing this way.

[the_randomizer1889]

Oh good, so it wasn't my end. Gonna have to install this mod because clearly the team who wrote the code for this collection botched it somehow. Will install the mod.

Edit: Uh...sorry for double post, how do I actually get this mod to work? I subscribed but the game still sounds like crap.

[Moon Rabbit Sleeper Cell]

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

Oh good, so it wasn't my end. Gonna have to install this mod because clearly the team who wrote the code for this collection botched it somehow. Will install the mod.

Edit: Uh...sorry for double post, how do I actually get this mod to work? I subscribed but the game still sounds like crap.

You have to click on mods then select "Alien Soldier Original 60Hz Japanese Version" which should load the mod.
If your computer isn't the best out there then it may sound kinda crackly at first but it will go away after a few seconds (then again the music always did have a scratchy sound to it to begin with.)

[Gozer]

That mod does slow the music to it's proper speed on the new front end but unfortunetly it still sounds distorted for me.

Still nice to play Aliens Soldier at 60 fps though.

[the_randomizer1889]

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

Oh good, so it wasn't my end. Gonna have to install this mod because clearly the team who wrote the code for this collection botched it somehow. Will install the mod.

Edit: Uh...sorry for double post, how do I actually get this mod to work? I subscribed but the game still sounds like crap.

You have to click on mods then select "Alien Soldier Original 60Hz Japanese Version" which should load the mod.
If your computer isn't the best out there then it may sound kinda crackly at first but it will go away after a few seconds (then again the music always did have a scratchy sound to it to begin with.)

Which doesn't makes sense, using the simple launcher plays the music properly and without distortion, so the hub frontend is to blame. Made three recordings in WAV format to give the best audio quality possible.

Given that I have

Core i5 3570
8 GB DDR3 SDRAM
nVidia GTX 660 2GB GDDR5
Two 1 TB HDDs

There's really no excuse for the hub launcher to sound like the way it does, it makes no sense to me at all.

Will update with better links

Edit: Maybe I'll have to record a video.

[Moon Rabbit Sleeper Cell]

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

You have to click on mods then select "Alien Soldier Original 60Hz Japanese Version" which should load the mod.
If your computer isn't the best out there then it may sound kinda crackly at first but it will go away after a few seconds (then again the music always did have a scratchy sound to it to begin with.)

Which doesn't makes sense, using the simple launcher plays the music properly and without distortion, so the hub frontend is to blame. Made three recordings in WAV format to give the best audio quality possible.

Given that I have

Core i5 3570
8 GB DDR3 SDRAM
nVidia GTX 660 2GB GDDR5
Two 1 TB HDDs

There's really no excuse for the hub launcher to sound like the way it does, it makes no sense to me at all.

Will update with better links

Edit: Maybe I'll have to record a video.

Yeah, the music on my end sometimes sounds really scratchy (and i know its not just the game because i've played thi game before on the old launcher). I have a feeling that it may be due to the graphically-intensive game room lagging everything else up, but who knows. Sometimes it's not too scratchy in certain areas.

Also when you run the unmodded game, I noticed that the music returns to regular speed when you fight Rolling Shellshogun (that's like the first boss where the music changes for a bit.) After fighting him the music then returns to being unaturally fast.

[the_randomizer1889]

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

Which doesn't makes sense, using the simple launcher plays the music properly and without distortion, so the hub frontend is to blame. Made three recordings in WAV format to give the best audio quality possible.

Given that I have

Core i5 3570
8 GB DDR3 SDRAM
nVidia GTX 660 2GB GDDR5
Two 1 TB HDDs

There's really no excuse for the hub launcher to sound like the way it does, it makes no sense to me at all.

Will update with better links

Edit: Maybe I'll have to record a video.

Yeah, the music on my end sometimes sounds really scratchy (and i know its not just the game because i've played thi game before on the old launcher). I have a feeling that it may be due to the graphically-intensive game room lagging everything else up, but who knows. Sometimes it's not too scratchy in certain areas.

Also when you run the unmodded game, I noticed that the music returns to regular speed when you fight Rolling Shellshogun (that's like the first boss where the music changes for a bit.) After fighting him the music then returns to being unaturally fast.

*sigh* Sega doesn't care about our issues with these games, even if I made a thread, pointing out how badly this game is, even is I show empiracal evidence via sound and video, it will be for naught. Top that off with other games having off audio compared to real hardware, and I know they can do much better with it.

The simple launcher has good audio, it's just 50 Hz *shudder*

[Moon Rabbit Sleeper Cell]

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

*sigh* Sega doesn't care about our issues with these games, even if I made a thread, pointing out how badly this game is, even is I show empiracal evidence via sound and video, it will be for naught. Top that off with other games having off audio compared to real hardware, and I know they can do much better with it.

The simple launcher has good audio, it's just 50 Hz *shudder*

My guess is that Sega doesn't care as much about Alien Soldier having as accurate emulation because it isn't as well known as Gunstar, Streets of Rage, or Sonic.

r.i.p. This is what happens when you love obscure games.... T_T

At least the modded 60Hz version doesn't have too many scratchy moments on my comp. my theory is that we need to adjust our settings bc of how intensive the new Loader is... We shouldn't need a high-end alienware just to play games released 20 years ago.....

[the_randomizer1889]

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

*sigh* Sega doesn't care about our issues with these games, even if I made a thread, pointing out how badly this game is, even is I show empiracal evidence via sound and video, it will be for naught. Top that off with other games having off audio compared to real hardware, and I know they can do much better with it.

The simple launcher has good audio, it's just 50 Hz *shudder*

My guess is that Sega doesn't care as much about Alien Soldier having as accurate emulation because it isn't as well known as Gunstar, Streets of Rage, or Sonic.

r.i.p. This is what happens when you love obscure games.... T_T

At least the modded 60Hz version doesn't have too many scratchy moments on my comp. my theory is that we need to adjust our settings bc of how intensive the new Loader is... We shouldn't need a high-end alienware just to play games released 20 years ago.....

That's the problem, it's just...*sigh* I don't even know what settings to use. I might as well give up.

[Moon Rabbit Sleeper Cell]

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

That's the problem, it's just...*sigh* I don't even know what settings to use. I might as well give up.

Have you tried lowering the resolution? turned off Vsync? also try turning down TV projection to the absolute minimum. I have no clue what it does when it's on and honestly turning it off seems to improve performance a lot.

[the_randomizer1889]

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:

That's the problem, it's just...*sigh* I don't even know what settings to use. I might as well give up.

Have you tried lowering the resolution? turned off Vsync? also try turning down TV projection to the absolute minimum. I have no clue what it does when it's on and honestly turning it off seems to improve performance a lot.

Projection is all the way down, I haven't changed the resolution or detail in the hub, vysnc was disabled and it didn't help at all. Yes, the game does run properly at 60 Hz with the mod, but the audio makes my ears bleed >< If only the simple launcher would support mods. Was the audio still distorted?

[Ankon]

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

I just managed to find a mod that reverts the game back into its orignal 60Hz version and it works excellent now! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674769616
the game is in english in its japanese version anyway, so I'm totally ok with playing this way.

Thanks for pointing out the mod! Tried it and it reverts the speed of the music to normal. Anyway, the sound does have some distortion that didn´t happen in the old launcher (nor the original game) , lets hope someone at Sega sees the thread and they can fix it :-)

Cheers!

[the_randomizer1889]

Originally posted by Ankon:

Originally posted by He Knows (Mamizoune):

I just managed to find a mod that reverts the game back into its orignal 60Hz version and it works excellent now! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674769616
the game is in english in its japanese version anyway, so I'm totally ok with playing this way.

Thanks for pointing out the mod! Tried it and it reverts the speed of the music to normal. Anyway, the sound does have some distortion that didn´t happen in the old launcher (nor the original game) , lets hope someone at Sega sees the thread and they can fix it :-)

Cheers!

The mod is a huge step in the right direction, the 50 Hz version being used was a mistake.

[beancat]

As others have said, I suspect the new frontend/emulator is running a version of the game which was originally PAL optimized, and as such would run incredibly badly/weirdly under default NTSC settings. I suspect the original frontend/emulator accounted for this. Hopefully the game should function well enough if the emulator is tweaked a little for it. of course I'm no expert so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt but I used to import a bit and this shares a lot of symptoms of this. But yeah. Hope this is fixed without needing a mod soon-ish.