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Samson Fairfox 12 października 2016 o 8:10
Bad Sound Emulation
This is a post of people talking about the coding and quality and the current emulation in the hub.

This is video showing sonic 2 and shows how bad it sounds compared to past emulators.
https://youtu.be/Jk2xx6gC_m0
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Samson Fairfox; 26 grudnia 2016 o 19:56
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anarqts 30 stycznia 2017 o 5:50 
I could even use those crappy *insert console here* emulators... Those at least use ♥♥♥♥ of a lot less CPU and still manage to be pretty much as accurate as this...
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I could even use those crappy *insert console here* emulators... Those at least use ♥♥♥♥ of a lot less CPU and still manage to be pretty much as accurate as this...

Sega will never use good emulators
Samson Fairfox 13 lutego 2017 o 19:53 
quality shiz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_L-miRT16s makes me think of how SEGA allowed this garbage emulation station to get released.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Samson Fairfox; 13 lutego 2017 o 19:55
Samson Fairfox 28 marca 2017 o 21:48 
back from the depths of hell, hello world.
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...and I still haven't made a sound emulation comparision video, yet.

I can make one if need be, it's pretty bad lol
someone needs to make a emulator with source code for Sega, this emulator feels like a gen 1 bug filled mess.
Or just don't use Sega's garbage emulator.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: the_randomizer1889; 6 maja 2017 o 9:38
TheCoddFish 6 maja 2017 o 17:38 
I actually discovered something that bugs me EVEN MORE than the sound.

One of the pixels in the center of the screen is half the size it should be, causing a skewed ratio.
Indeed though, the sound is utterly crap.

(No, i am not moving from the SEGA emulator- But yes, i think that SEGA messed up when they based this off of Jenesis DS)
I'd rather they ruin Jenesis DS (which is now licensed to Sega), than to have them botch up something good.
TheCoddFish 7 maja 2017 o 21:14 
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I'd rather they ruin Jenesis DS (which is now licensed to Sega), than to have them botch up something good.

Considering that some of the titles on the Mega Drive library are legendary (Sonic 1-3K, Puyo Puyo, Dynamite Headdy, etc.) I think they did botch up some rather good stuff thanks to their crap emulator.

Unless it is just a subsidiary of SEGA, i think the guys to contact would be D3t, who appear to have worked on the re-done Jenesis DS emulator.

Personal opinion: I would rather have them re-do the hub based on Kega Fusion or another emulator that a fan would be happy to license to SEGA.
Specifically, i'd have them only alter the needed code to make the emulator work in the hub, without touching any of the actual code that makes the emulator work properly (and miles ahead of Jenesis DS).

But since when was SEGA a competent developer?
Ostatnio edytowany przez: TheCoddFish; 7 maja 2017 o 21:22
//// 26 sierpnia 2017 o 13:56 
this nice video been uploaded on youtube recently...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEvnZRCW_qc
MegaDeimos 27 sierpnia 2017 o 5:46 
VA7. VA7 model 1s are the ones with bad sound. VA6s sound fine. VA7s are easy to pick out, because the jacks on the back are shifted slightly away from the edge compared to other model 1s. I've had a VA6 model 1 Genesis ("High Definition Graphics") since childhood. It does not have crap sound. My VA1 model 2, on the other hand...

Anyway, I'd call the sound quality of this progam "adequate." I know it's not quite right, but at least it's on key. Imagine if it were comparable to those AtGames abominations. Ugh...
Ostatnio edytowany przez: MegaDeimos; 27 sierpnia 2017 o 5:52
Samson Fairfox 27 sierpnia 2017 o 13:14 
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VA7. VA7 model 1s are the ones with bad sound. VA6s sound fine. VA7s are easy to pick out, because the jacks on the back are shifted slightly away from the edge compared to other model 1s. I've had a VA6 model 1 Genesis ("High Definition Graphics") since childhood. It does not have crap sound. My VA1 model 2, on the other hand...

Anyway, I'd call the sound quality of this progam "adequate." I know it's not quite right, but at least it's on key. Imagine if it were comparable to those AtGames abominations. Ugh...
still some times it craps in my ears with bad fm emulation, in fact the first emulators for the SMD/SG are better then those bootleg of game systems from AtGames.
MegaDeimos 28 sierpnia 2017 o 0:59 
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still some times it craps in my ears with bad fm emulation, in fact the first emulators for the SMD/SG are better then those bootleg of game systems from AtGames.

Oh, I agree. Heck, I still remember the days of Genecyst. My use of the word "adequate" is basically me calling the sound here "functional." It's not high praise. It could definitely use work.
Growing up with (and still having) a real Genesis, I definitely notice the sound differences from any emulated source.

One example that baffles me is the music in Phantasy Star II. Excluding the best unofficial emulators, I've only ever heard it sound close to correct on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection (decent sound in this collection, but a little off at times). I swear all the music rips on YouTube that I have found are wrong. It seems none of them are recorded from a real Genesis/Mega Drive.

It's not right in this program, either. The easiest example I can think of is the battle music. After what I would call the trumpet intro, the main melody SHOULD switch to something more of a wind instrument. It doesn't. And it doesn't on every recording I can find. Though, I admit, it's not something I noticed until I played Phantasy Star II on a real Genesis. It's not a huge problem; I can deal with it, but I also can't unhear it.

Yo, Sega! Fix yo... You know, I don't think 'fix' is the right word. Sega, IMPROVE your sound. It merely being functional isn't good enough and work should be put forth to make it as accurate to the genuine Mega Drive/Genesis as possible. Inaccurate or poor sound misrepresents the original hardware and games, tarnishing their legacy (and your company's) as a result.
- from a longtime Sega fan that still cares (and buys)
Ostatnio edytowany przez: MegaDeimos; 28 sierpnia 2017 o 1:39
zaphod 15 listopada 2017 o 2:20 
Funny you should mention phantasy star II.

The Mota town music (Pleasure) does not sound like it did on my genesis. On ANY EMULATOR i've tried so far. even genesis plux gx, which is supposed to have PERFECT fm sound.

the bit after the loud drum break sounds off to me. The instrument seems totally different.

I may have had a VA7. the ring sound effect totally distorted and scratched every time through headphone jack. This may be why it sounded different to me. can anyone with a va7 record phantasy star 2 town music from it? from the headphone jack?
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