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That would remove cheap accessability to them like Sega wants but still make it possible to get the achievements and play the mods from this collection.
Other games usually do that as well.
And "shouldn't be acceptable" according to whom? After all, you don't have to "accept" it at all. You are very free to disapprove of their decision. Importantly, though, we aren't owed anything as far as achievements or even de-listed DLC is concerned. No legal, ethical, or moral lines were crossed. This collection features a few achievements (and challenges) that will only ever be available to the vast, vast majority of purchasers who acted in the first 12 years of the game's availability. That's fine. I mean, some people will be annoyed, sure, but there will always be people who choose to be annoyed about anything. You'll notice that most of the people doing the complaining already own the Sonic games in this collection, further illustrating how much of a non-issue this really is.
And while it certainly would have been nice if Sega had included the old versions as a bonus, it's a little presumptuous (and entitled) to claim they "should" have. All we can do is express our personal preferences. We aren't owed anything and we haven't been wronged.
And it being a DLC is only a technicality, they can just give you the collection and the DLCs.
And I would concider being unable to complete a "problem".
And yes, we can certainly argue that if they wanted Origins to be the definitive way to play classic Sonic then they should have released a more polished product. That's true, but it doesn't negate anything I suggested.
It's more than a technicality, it's a whole other ball game. I would argue that very few games give you free access to older versions of those games at purchase, whether that be as an option in the new game itself, as a separate executable, or as DLC in an old compilation. You suggested that other games "usually" do that, but it's not common practice at all.
You're welcome to see it that way. But the point is it's not inherently a problem. Heck, have you even checked the global achievements for this collection? First of all, it's worth noting that the Sonic-related achievements are (predictably) among the most popular achievements, making up 3 of the top 4 achievements. But the single most acquired achievement (getting 500 rings in the Sonic games) has a 10.8% achievement rate. That means that almost 9 out of 10 people who own the compilation haven't even gotten the most common achievement. The next Sonic achievement (beat Emerald Hills with 5 lives in Sonic 2) has a 2.6% achievement rate, meaning about 1 out of 40 people who own the compilation have gotten it. The next one (collect all 6 Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 1) has a 1.4% achievement rate, so about 1 out of 67 players got it. And these are the most popular achievements! When it comes to people who've gotten all the achievements in this collection, you're down to 0.7%. That means about 1 out of 143 owners of this compilation made the effort to get all the achievements.
Now please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the experiences of this 0.7% don't matter. I am part of that group myself. I loved being able to get all these achievements. But keeping in mind that this collection has already gotten the grand majority of sales it will ever get (it's been available for 12 years and has been on sale at heavy discounts many times), and that those sales likely include the majority of people who care about playing classic Sonic on Steam and getting achievements, then, realistically, even fewer than 1 out of 143 future purchasers will care about being unable to get all the achievements. You can see, I hope, how this "problem" exists as a complaint from people completely unaffected by this decision but not really as an issue that will have any statistically significant effect on future purchases.
It is, however, a 100% valid complaint. Just because we bought something doesn't mean it should be a problem we can ignore. Heck, the opposite can also apply - those that don't buy it lose their right to complain as "it doesn't affect them because they never bought them". Either way, you can't win here.
Then by that logic, SEGA isn't owed anything either (including our money) and they haven't been wronged if people are going out of their way to buy these games through other means such as second-hand Steam keys, copies of Mega Collection Plus or the original cartridges, none of which see SEGA any money whatsoever.
Isn't that what being a business is all about? Making money? Something that SEGA will not be doing if people resort to the above methods of buying these games in the future? Unfortunately for them, it's 100% legal and is even both morally and ethically okay to do so as long as you're not buying from scalpers.
There's a very good reason why EA kept the old versions of the Mass Effect Trilogy available alongside their remasters - they're a business and only care about making money. Used sales doesn't get them any money from old products if they're not selling them anymore and they know this.
EA already had the original trilogy in its store. Buying the remasters came with the perks, but that's not the point of the remasters. EA already generates revenue from franchises like Sims 4 where they put out another $40 game pack, and there are dozens of them. Not to mention they run a subscription program, so their priority is not in preserving legacy content entirely. Even some of the Mass Effect DLCs could be retired soon and they have a backup on a separate site. Don't count on that to last. Ubisoft sure doesn't.
I understand that. Corporations are legally destroying the environment at an alarming rate. They legally make decisions that have serious detrimental effects on people's lives all the time. This is not one of those cases. Nobody is being harmed. Nobody's been wronged.
Of course it is! You're free to complain. You can complain about any number of subjective issues that have personal value to you. But you haven't been wronged.
Again (again): YES. That's how it works. If a company makes a decision that consumers don't like, they lose business. Nobody anywhere is suggesting that we owe Sega anything at all. Origins got worse reviews than it would have gotten if it had released in a polished state. It's selling less copies than it would have if it had offered a superior way to play these games. It's also selling worse because people are annoyed at the high price and silly DLC/preorder shenanigans. That's how it's supposed to work. "Us vs them" campaigns based on disingenuous narratives are not only unnecessary, they actively detract from constructive criticism by focusing on accusations and smear campaigns. They only serve to highlight gamer entitlement and toxic behavior and make gamers look worse that the perceived villains they are rallying against.
And again (again): These "other means" you describe are statistically insignificant to Sega's bottom line. Heck, at this point the number of people who actually bought the Genesis Collection in the last few years is probably minuscule. It's extremely likely Sega has cut off access to something that wasn't making them money anyway in order to provide one option moving forward for people wanting to play the classic Sonic games. Did they screw up? YES. They rushed the game and released a buggy product at a high price with nonsensical DLC, and they are very much facing the consequences for that. But you dramatically overestimate how many people are going to go to key re-sellers or buy used discs for obsolete hardware on auction sites. I'm not saying people willing to do that don't exist, but I am saying that the grand, grand majority who would already have these games, probably several times over.
EA made the sale of used keys/copies/whatever unnecessary for customers when it comes to the original Mass Effect trilogy seeing as they didn't de-list them just because they also put out a remastered version of the game. It's good for business as whether people buy the original or the remasters on Steam even in 2022, EA still makes money from that, and in fact, they can even make more money if people decide to double dip on them by buying both versions. They didn't force new players to buy the remasters; players had a choice as to whether they wanted the originals or their remasters and in the case of the former, you can still buy each game separately unlike the GTA Trilogy or Sonic Origins where that's no longer possible.
EA is a different company acting under different circumstances at a different time targeting different audiences for different reasons.
First of all, Mass Effect doesn't have the mass casual appeal that Sonic does. Mass Effect doesn't have a couple of very popular movies that captured the attention of loads of young people and new fans. Mass Effect's audience are people more likely to notice and care about differences between versions.
Secondly, the OG Mass Effect games don't sell for pocket change. If you would buy them separately, they'd cost a good chunk more than the Legendary Edition (and that's excluding the DLC), so anybody who didn't have any and wanted all three would be nuts not to get Legendary Edition. Anybody who had just one or two and just wanted to buy what they were missing would still pay a decent chunk of change.
Third, the OG Mass Effect games were probably still selling. Heck, I have part 2 and would like to have the series. I was tracking their prices before LE released. These aren't super well-known games that nearly everyone was exposed to in their childhood. If there is a steady stream of people who continue to express an interest in the originals, then it's worth keeping them available.
You're presenting it as though the only relevant variable is that these are remakes of older games already on Steam. It doesn't work that way.
What I can say for sure, however, is that my computer doesn't meet the GPU requirements needed for Origins (thanks, menu islands) so I can't even play it anyway. And I'm sure there's plenty of other people out there in a similar position to mine.
These companies are under no obligation to preserve the original content. Sierra is no more. You won't be seeing remakes, let alone their original products for a while directly from them. GTA remakes also prove my point. They didn't come with the original copies, and I don't recall anyone asking. Rockstar already still sells the original, so no one has a reason to complain. Sega delisting the Sonic titles, for certain reasons, would be precluded from selling them again, so it doesn't matter if you expect them to bend to your will and be cowed by consumers. They just can't do it without special circumstances. This isn't your place.