They removed the old games just now

[-=BwA=- Mr.TOad]

You were warned to get them before they got removed!

[The]

WHAT

[Ness_and_Sonic]

I already have them, but I was hoping they'd had a change of heart. Now they've just blown any chance of me getting Sonic Origins even if they do remove Denuvo.

[The]

This is so stupid

[Leonard]

Originally posted by The:

This is so stupid

He just means Sonic 1,2,3&K by the way.

[NBOX21]

SEGA's intention is to force people to buy the more expensive Sonic Origins. However, after looking at the system requirements for that collection, for some reason, the minimum requirements are 2GB of graphics memory and my computer only has 1GB meaning people like me won't even be able to play it anyway, meaning these versions are (were) the only viable options for those in a similar situation as I am.

Now, the only option left for these people are through things like second-hand copies of the Sonic PC Collection which includes Sonic Mega Collection Plus or a Mega Drive/Saturn + their respective games where SEGA sees no money through that.

Originally posted by Eldin:

Phew, if you owned them already all 58 still playable.

That's nice and all and I'm glad I bought them before their de-listings as well, but that still doesn't change the fact that those who didn't buy them before can no longer do so anymore.

[ikki5]

Originally posted by vanilla:

Keys are still available online through various retailers, but once those are gone there won't be other options.
All the Sonic related achievements in this collection will be unobtainable.

As long as you're willing to pay the insane price though.

[Fortify45]

Originally posted by vanilla:

Keys are still available online through various retailers, but once those are gone there won't be other options.
All the Sonic related achievements in this collection will be unobtainable.

It's not just the Sonic achievements. Some of the achievements are linked to the challenges as well. So that means because you can't do those challenges, you also can't complete all of the challenges, which is required to get those challenge related achievements.

[axmetro619]

So I ended up finding 3/4 keys legally online, but I can't find the key for Sonic 1. It's almost impossible to find. Strange, as I thought 3 would be the hardest to find. Would anyone possibly know of where I can track it down? I wish I knew this beforehand, as I've been a little out of touch lately. I am annoyed with myself now lol. Thanks everyone!

[p®ø†ø∑∂µµ]

Originally posted by axmetro619:

So I ended up finding 3/4 keys legally online, but I can't find the key for Sonic 1. It's almost impossible to find. Strange, as I thought 3 would be the hardest to find. Would anyone possibly know of where I can track it down? I wish I knew this beforehand, as I've been a little out of touch lately. I am annoyed with myself now lol. Thanks everyone!

Same here, but Sonic 1 is the only one I didn’t get before they were all delisted. I didn’t realize until it was too late, and now it looks like I’m never getting 100% completion. I guess resellers thought Sonic 1 wouldn’t be as valuable to people when compared to the other games.

[Tanoomba]

Maybe they made the same number of keys for all the Sonic games, and the original sold more because it's his first game so there's fewer floating around.

[Tanoomba]

Before everyone starts panic-buying old keys at inflated prices, remember that Origins will contain "Classic Mode" where the games will play in their original aspect ration and with their original rules. Also remember that, although Origins is quite pricey, it will eventually go on special, likely for a fraction of its original cost and including its DLC. Anybody who's gone this many years without buying the classic Sonic games should not feel pressured to do so now just because they've been de-listed.

[Sv. Prolivije]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Before everyone starts panic-buying old keys at inflated prices, remember that Origins will contain "Classic Mode" where the games will play in their original aspect ration and with their original rules. Also remember that, although Origins is quite pricey, it will eventually go on special, likely for a fraction of its original cost and including its DLC. Anybody who's gone this many years without buying the classic Sonic games should not feel pressured to do so now just because they've been de-listed.

This. It seems people become obsessed with games when they hear they will be removed but had no intention of buying them before that. So just wait for Origins to drop in price and buy that since you waited this long.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by vanilla:

While Origins will have a "Classic Mode", it isn't the originals as they were.
It will be the HD Taxman versions with a forced 4:3 aspect ratio, and the traditional lives system.
So technically, it wouldn't be the same as owning the originals.

Technically, neither are the versions for the SEGA Megadrive and Genesis Classics, as they allow for save states, rewinding, and a variety of viewing modes. if you're a real purist, the only way to play the originals "as they were" is to play the original cartridges on original hardware.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Sv. Prolivije:

This. It seems people become obsessed with games when they hear they will be removed but had no intention of buying them before that. So just wait for Origins to drop in price and buy that since you waited this long.

It's called FOMO. An old scummy business trick used to fool people into buying something before it's gone forever and can no longer be bought. We've seen this trick plenty of times from Nintendo themselves, fooling as many people as possible to buying their products before they stop production of it.

Honestly, such a practice makes no sense to me. What happens when they stop selling them forever? People are going to have to turn to second-hand copies which they make zero money from.

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by vanilla:

While Origins will have a "Classic Mode", it isn't the originals as they were.
It will be the HD Taxman versions with a forced 4:3 aspect ratio, and the traditional lives system.
So technically, it wouldn't be the same as owning the originals.

Technically, neither are the versions for the SEGA Megadrive and Genesis Classics, as they allow for save states, rewinding, and a variety of viewing modes. if you're a real purist, the only way to play the originals "as they were" is to play the original cartridges on original hardware.

These emulated versions, however, are about as close as you can get to having that original experience, especially considering purists can still play these games without these features if they don't want to. Viewing modes, however, are objectively better no matter what kind of player you are. "Purists" can enjoy the game with borders if they want, whereas others like myself can fill the entire screen which is arguably closer to the original experience on old hardware as that's how it's displayed by default if you're using the original hardware on a modern TV.

Unlike Origins' Classic Mode, which has no reason to exist the way it does. It's supposed to be an enhanced wide-screen version, but what's even the point if Classic Mode doesn't even allow this enhanced wide-screen mode in the first place? Just because the original games were in 4:3? That'd be like playing Classic Mode in Tony Hawk's Underground 2 without spine transfers, focus mode or walking just because THPS2 and 3 didn't have them.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

These emulated versions, however, are about as close as you can get to having that original experience, especially considering purists can still play these games without these features if they don't want to.

To be fair, a lot of the added features in the taxman versions are also optional. You can play without using the spin dash or Tails or Knuckles or the extra bonus stage (via level select) or the time attack. Besides that, the life HUD is in the top right instead of the bottom left, and the bonus stages rotate more smoothly, neither of which significantly change the original experience.

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Unlike Origins' Classic Mode, which has no reason to exist the way it does. It's supposed to be an enhanced wide-screen version, but what's even the point if Classic Mode doesn't even allow this enhanced wide-screen mode in the first place? Just because the original games were in 4:3?

Well, yes. Seems to me the entire point of "classic mode" is to play something more similar to the original games. Besides the aspect ratio, classic mode features "the classic finite life system, time limits, and Game Over gameplay", compared to the infinite lives of "Anniversary Mode".