No more Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

[DJT]

With the update coming in May, and the latest version of the collection does not come with Sonic 3 & Knuckles, does this mean we may no longer be able to play it even though we already bought it on Steam?

[Leonard]

Seems unlikely to me. Even if games get removed from steam they still stay in your library.

[Allard]

Originally posted by Darth Trinidad:

With the update coming in May, and the latest version of the collection does not come with Sonic 3 & Knuckles, does this mean we may no longer be able to play it even though we already bought it on Steam?

Steam never takes away games you already bought. They are usually just delisted from the store and unavailable for purchase, but those who already bought them still have full access to them.

[Brandongl]

Steam doesn't take away "games" (and since all games in this are treated as DLC, I think we're perfectly safe)
However, sometimes games are updated to remove certain parts, such as licensed music. Normally, the company let's previous-owner keeps it and adds a "new" version of it available to new buyers (GTA:VC), but for some weird reason, I believe that same company updated everyone's GTA:SA and removed some songs to even current owners.


I'm 99.9% sure we're not going to lose S3&K, I just wanted to update the history of games being updated so they can continue selling it.

[Crystal Sharrd]

Originally posted by Brandongl:

Steam doesn't take away "games" (and since all games in this are treated as DLC, I think we're perfectly safe)
However, sometimes games are updated to remove certain parts, such as licensed music. Normally, the company let's previous-owner keeps it and adds a "new" version of it available to new buyers (GTA:VC), but for some weird reason, I believe that same company updated everyone's GTA:SA and removed some songs to even current owners.


I'm 99.9% sure we're not going to lose S3&K, I just wanted to update the history of games being updated so they can continue selling it.

Steam has removed online multiplayer-only games when their servers shut down.

[Smash45]

The game hasn't been taken down yet and it's been on Steam since 2011. It's safe to assume that SEGA have paid the royalties for the soundtrack back during the lawsuit in 2012, unless there is some sort of time limit but I doubt it.

In case you don't know what's that about. SEGA doesn't actually own the rights for the music of Sonic games and they pay royalties in case the songs would ever be used, yes, even for Green Hill, they basically have to pay Nakamura everytime a song of his is used(the songs that were originally composed by him are also missing from Sonic Mania official soundtrack release).

In case of Sonic 3 and Knuckles, the soundtrack was composed by a bigger number of people and they would need to pay every single one of them and I would assume SEGA don't want that, keeping in mind that they would need to pay royalties for both the team that worked on Sonic 3's soundtrack and the one that have worked on Sonic and Knuckles' soundtrack.

I found out about this recently, since for the most part we were being kept in the dark(for obvious reasons, it's a bit embarassing for SEGA that they don't even own the rights to the iconic Green Hil theme). I knew for a while about the legal action from 2012 regarding Sonic 3 on Steam and the fact that SEGA owed money for a lot people, but I mostly threw assumptions. After finding out about the copyright stuff about Nakamura's tracks, I took a guess that the same thing would apply to Sonic 3 and knowing Sonic 3 and Knuckles' big music team, it makes sense.

[Panda o' Plenty]

I think that they just will not have achievements, while still getting emulator-wide new features. Maybe they will not even be removed off store.

[Bad Aim Bodyshot Barry]

Originally posted by Gamer1214:

I have games that have been removed from the store, but it still lets you play. Don't think think that is under consideration though. Look at Xbox and playstation as different versions. If they took away Sega games on Steam that are no longer playable that would bring a lot of backlash. Hope that give you peace of mind.

i was pondering a answer to this and the only reasons that i can think of this game getiing removed is becuase : it was getting remade (wich is very unlikly as sega already said no to a remake by christian whitehead) OR the more likly reason is that something is happening lawsuit wise that we dont know about OR they are changing it to a standalone game

[Crystal Sharrd]

Can someone provide a link to the update info please.

[Hermit]

I can confirm it's not going to be on either of the console versions. I hope it doesn't get removed from our library's.

[Leonard]

Originally posted by Hermit:

I can confirm it's not going to be on either of the console versions. I hope it doesn't get removed from our library's.

Devs can't even remove the game from your library if they wanted to. All they could do is revoke steam keys but that isn't an option here.