Active shooter game cancelled? (Now Titled Standoff)

[HypomanicJew]

So it seems the game was banned and removed by steam....kinda harsh considering Hatred exists.....guess it was just bad timing on their part. What do fans of hatred think of this?

[knighttime]

acid software the people that made the game offer it on there website.

[knighttime]

i dont wanna say to much but i will say this, the parents of the kids killed by that kid in the florida school shooting ruined it for everyone. they started an online petition to get active shooter now titled standoff removed. i encourage all of my fellow video gamers to let your voices be heard of this injustice. its just a video game and we love video games so why should we suffer by not being able to play standoff? correction you can play it its avaliable for purchase on the website of acid software. i just wish it was on steam

[Phobos]

From what I saw, having played Hatred, Hatred is something beyond the shock value, the gameplay, physics, realisation... It's a well rounded product.

Active Shooter looked like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and the shock value clearly was the main and only argument. I agree it shouldn't have been banned, but unlike Hatred, I highly doubt this was a product made for being something else than a controversial title, and I think that's the main reason why it was banned.

Remember that Hatred was almost banned from Steam too, until Gabe Newell HIMSELF clarified the situation.

Active Shooter was far from being a competent enough product beyond the mass killing purpose to benefit the same treatment, that's all. Tons of ♥♥♥♥ games were banned from Steam - remember DigitalHomicide studio ? Yeah.

Controversial subject + ultra low quality value = ban for rather good reasons to avoid people getting scammed and useless polemics.

[Neutralize]

I think ♥♥♥♥ censorship.

Doesn't matter if the game will be trash or not (and likely will be, yeah, though for other reaons).

The lack or creation of one or two controversial video games, movies, or songs...dare I even say a thousand more, won't somehow magically disappear or further propogate the issue at hand.

But I guess pointing the finger at someone's attempt to take advantage of controversial subject matter, and "protecting" people from the harmful notions it represents is a much safer and easier strategy, rather than to look inward towards our own humanity (or lack thereof), and outwards at the grotesque and regular failings of our society.

[knighttime]

neutralize me and a lot of other people saw the gameplay and it is not trash it looks like a really good game.

[Phobos]

There's videos of Active Shooter on Youtube when it was released: it looks (looked) like a flying turd done in 3hrs with pre-made assets.

How it has evolved, is a totally different thing that no-one was able to predict back then. Hatred was polished with no major problems at launch, AS did not, it really doesn't help to take something seriously when it looks like a blatant cashgrab.

Now if the game evolved and looks competent enough, nothing prevents them to try to release it through steam once again. Hatred is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ violent and is a game about mass rampage, so I really don't think the violence or controversial subject was the problem with it, it's more of a overall presentation that seemed to be a easy cashgrab.

[Vergil]

Active Shooter is pretty much CS 1.6 hostage mode lacking features, almost a barebone of game, but trying hard to sell solely on controversy.

Hatred 2 should show those scammers how it's properly done!

[Cryptic Draugr]

well...active shooter was meant to be a learning tool and teach ways to properly deal with an active school shooting situation. I will agree that parents did ruin it for everyone, not just the gamers but everyone. They got not just a video game where your killing a bunch of 1's and 0's, but a learning tool (and a good one at that) which really does nothing but hurt those wanting to learn how to properly deal with these situations. I feel bad that these parents lost their kids in a shooting, but lets be honest here, they are really stupid and need to get the hell OUT and STAY THE ♥♥♥♥ AWAY from video games all together.

[xMGDx]

we aint loosing nothing special The game video on youtube looks retarted compare to our amazing game called Hatred. ITS JUST A GAME!! KEEP IT THAT WAY!! Know the difference. Enjoy the game dont be stupid.

[Cryptic Draugr]

active shooter was being sold as a training andeducational on what to do during a school shooter situation. personally i think it should have either been free or been no more then about $5 as it looked very unfinished. But it did allow you to play as swat trying to take down the school shooter but also allowed you to play as the school shooter. The outrage against it was made by people who didnt do their research on the game, know what it was about and read the tile, saw it dealt with a school shooter and immediatly formed their own opinion saying that it was bad and needed banned.

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Originally posted by HypomanicJew:

So it seems the game was banned and removed by steam....kinda harsh considering Hatred exists.....guess it was just bad timing on their part. What do fans of hatred think of this?

I think we need an ACTIVE SHOOTER/MASS SHOTER game where you walk around and kill random people and where kids in schools walk around with guns. think would be good game! who is steam to ban a game like that? is GOOD GAME ! HATRED is not enough we need more BRUTAL more REALISTIC approach.

Hello FBI / NSA ;)

anyways thought i would end it with this note : Would you rather have people playing games that are based on Active Shooters so people can take out their anger in a game ? or would you rather have Active Shooters in real life that will cause real damage to take out their anger ? UN-BAN the game and BRING IT BACK

[Phobos]

Originally posted by ᠌󠀡᠌󠀡:

Originally posted by HypomanicJew:

So it seems the game was banned and removed by steam....kinda harsh considering Hatred exists.....guess it was just bad timing on their part. What do fans of hatred think of this?

I think we need an ACTIVE SHOOTER/MASS SHOTER game where you walk around and kill random people and where kids in schools walk around with guns. think would be good game! who is steam to ban a game like that? is GOOD GAME ! HATRED is not enough we need more BRUTAL more REALISTIC approach.

Hello FBI / NSA ;)

anyways thought i would end it with this note : Would you rather have people playing games that are based on Active Shooters so people can take out their anger in a game ? or would you rather have Active Shooters in real life that will cause real damage to take out their anger ? UN-BAN the game and BRING IT BACK

You can't be serious.

Taking your anger out by killing innocents in games and killing them in real life is absolutely not comparable. If you feel the need to take your anger out by playing games to avoid doing the same thing in real life, you don't need Active Shooter or any ♥♥♥♥, you need a psychiatrist ASAP.

[HypomanicJew]

Psychiatrists do not understand evolutionary psychology - they are only there for meds.

Not trying to be that pseudo-intellectual guy but this pretty much sums it up:

"If I also may elaborate by saying that virtually everybody programmed by thousands of years of evolution has a natural "Darwinian" based drive. Yes it is an abstraction, but most competitive behaviours are rooted in natural selection based adaptations within the mind. (Hint T-shirt). It is perfectly logical to play a violent video-game that appeals to these senses. (Distinction between fantasy and reality of course)

Those natural selection based adaptations within the mind are what undoubtedly contribute to competitive violent actions among people who are competing for resources and failing at the social games people animalistically play with each other. Evolutionary psychology and sociobiology have broken this down extensively.

Your brain has to be stimulated to break out of the matrix......

So why not play a game that "Tricks" the evolutionary based senses in your mind or find better abstract solutions - Because in the end people are animals who have that primal urge to dominate, resource guard, and play games which everybody is hypocritically locked into."

human behavioral biology has some cool stuff too

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Originally posted by Evilman:

Originally posted by ᠌󠀡᠌󠀡:

I think we need an ACTIVE SHOOTER/MASS SHOTER game where you walk around and kill random people and where kids in schools walk around with guns. think would be good game! who is steam to ban a game like that? is GOOD GAME ! HATRED is not enough we need more BRUTAL more REALISTIC approach.

Hello FBI / NSA ;)

anyways thought i would end it with this note : Would you rather have people playing games that are based on Active Shooters so people can take out their anger in a game ? or would you rather have Active Shooters in real life that will cause real damage to take out their anger ? UN-BAN the game and BRING IT BACK

You can't be serious.

Taking your anger out by killing innocents in games and killing them in real life is absolutely not comparable. If you feel the need to take your anger out by playing games to avoid doing the same thing in real life, you don't need Active Shooter or any ♥♥♥♥, you need a psychiatrist ASAP.

no one is truly innocent.

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Originally posted by Evilman:

Originally posted by ᠌󠀡᠌󠀡:

I think we need an ACTIVE SHOOTER/MASS SHOTER game where you walk around and kill random people and where kids in schools walk around with guns. think would be good game! who is steam to ban a game like that? is GOOD GAME ! HATRED is not enough we need more BRUTAL more REALISTIC approach.

Hello FBI / NSA ;)

anyways thought i would end it with this note : Would you rather have people playing games that are based on Active Shooters so people can take out their anger in a game ? or would you rather have Active Shooters in real life that will cause real damage to take out their anger ? UN-BAN the game and BRING IT BACK

You can't be serious.

Taking your anger out by killing innocents in games and killing them in real life is absolutely not comparable. If you feel the need to take your anger out by playing games to avoid doing the same thing in real life, you don't need Active Shooter or any ♥♥♥♥, you need a psychiatrist ASAP.

I think you need to re-read what i stated. " Would you rather have people playing games that are based on Active Shooters so people can take out their anger in a game ? or would you rather have Active Shooters in real life that take out their anger in real life and will cause real damage to take out their anger ?"