Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes

Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes

Asmor 9 OCT 2015 a las 20:37
Any tips for grokking the morse code?
Just played this a bit with a friend, and we had a blast, but the morse code was super challenging just because it goes so quickly and it's really hard to the un-trained eye to tell the difference between a one-unit pause a three-unit letter separator. Honestly, even being sure the sequence has restarted was kind of iffy.
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TheNormalGeek 9 OCT 2015 a las 20:51 
It's something you will learn with practice. The first four-five times I got a Morse-code module, I lost because of it. But the general gist of it is that you only need the first two letters to "semi-find" the right solution. If you time your audio-commands with the rhythm of the morsecode, then it will be alot easier.
Moleculor 9 OCT 2015 a las 21:46 
I speak the combination in between letters. So I look at the flashing light and as it's flashing I say "First letter is...." and then at the pause I say "dot dot dot. Second letter is...." and I wait for the pause.
Major_Rip-Off 10 OCT 2015 a las 14:57 
I don't understand morse at all tbh... Can someone clearly explain this with the help of a video or sth? Or are there already some vids available. I LOVE all the other modules but seeing morse makes me restart automatically tbh.
TeePee 10 OCT 2015 a las 15:06 
I would suggest memorising a few easy-to-remember letters - S, O, A, E and T are all pretty easy to remember, and will help you narrow down your options pretty quickly.

Paiyn - basically, there will be a light that flashes either short (dot) or long (dash), and the combination it flashes corresponds to the letter you're looking for. So, for example, if it flashes short-long-short, the letter is 'R'. It'll then pause briefly (about the same time as a long flash) and move on to the next letter. So for example:

Long (T)
-pause-
Long, Long, Long (O)
-pause-
Short (E)
-pause-
Short, Short, Short (S)
-long pause-

the word you're looking for is TOES. You'd then look it up in the manual and enter the corresponding frequency.
Última edición por TeePee; 10 OCT 2015 a las 15:07
Sistermatic™ 10 OCT 2015 a las 17:37 
Publicado originalmente por Asmor:
Just played this a bit with a friend, and we had a blast
I saw what you did there :)

Had same issues with morse and put it down to a flash not being a flash but more of a fading pulse. When you hear morse it's entirely readable with practice. Perhaps this should (could) be combined with audio?

I did manage to get 1 or 2 out but the time wasted if you miss the first part of the sequence is a PITA.
Última edición por Sistermatic™; 10 OCT 2015 a las 17:37
Regen7 10 OCT 2015 a las 19:48 
Yeah it sucks because I can read morse code but I'm also reading the manual since my brother is a slow reader and has generally bad problem solving skills. He can't tell the difference between long and short flashes if his life depended on it (clearly). Times like this I wish I had a clone of myself lol
Última edición por Regen7; 10 OCT 2015 a las 19:51
Pckables 10 OCT 2015 a las 21:46 
The worst way to try to do it is to try to say "dot" or "dash" as the light is flashing. You'll just get confused when theres a dash instead of a dot and by the time you confirm which on it is, the next letter will start, confusing the expert because you just combined two letters to one.

What you want to do: Wait until a letter is over before you say it, that way you can properly say the letter and the pause between letters will be you reading the next one.
Don't forget to have a pencil and paper.
draeath 10 OCT 2015 a las 21:48 
Look here. WAAAY easier.
dunbaratu 10 OCT 2015 a las 23:28 
Just played this at a friends house for the first time. The problem I had was that I could not visually see the difference between a dash and a dot very well. It wasn't a matter of communicating it to the manual player, it was a matter of not even knowing whether I had just seen a short or a long because the shorts and longs aren't different enough from each other. they're both super fast. It would have been better if I had an option to slow down the entire time scale of the flashes, making the dots and dashes more distinguishable from each other. Getting it right once slowly eats less time than getting it wrong five times in a row.

I feel like this is a case where graphical niceness actually makes it worse. If the lights had "harder edges" to them, time wise, with no fade-out and fade-in times, just a sharp snap between on and off, it would have been easier to see. But because it gloWS ON and then GLOws off it makes it hard to detect whether it was long or short.

Última edición por dunbaratu; 10 OCT 2015 a las 23:31
CJ 11 OCT 2015 a las 7:13 
"Excuse me mister terrorist, could you maybe make those flashing lights distinguish more from each other so I can defuse it easier?" Wake up, people! :P

As you've probably noticed, this game is pretty difficult and a lot of stress. The morse code only comes a little later in the game, so I think it's only fair that it's harder to ace. Sure it's not easy, but that's what morse code is.

If it helps, you could try counting along, try to count the "ticks" of each flash. Where a short is 1 tick, you'll notice that a long is 3 ticks, and pauses are just 3 or 7 empty ticks. I'm bad at explaining.. If you've had music lessons you might know what I mean, otherwise: good luck, I don't know how to make it easier for you. But definitely not by altering the mechanics of the morsing.
draeath 11 OCT 2015 a las 10:02 
This is pretty slow for morse code, too. You should hear some of the conversations flying around on HF, you'd have a stroke trying to copy that :)

But yes. this may help you understand the timing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code#Timing
Última edición por draeath; 11 OCT 2015 a las 10:02
dunbaratu 11 OCT 2015 a las 20:56 
Publicado originalmente por CJ:
"Excuse me mister terrorist, could you maybe make those flashing lights distinguish more from each other so I can defuse it easier?" Wake up, people! :P

As you've probably noticed, this game is pretty difficult and a lot of stress. The morse code only comes a little later in the game, so I think it's only fair that it's harder to ace. Sure it's not easy, but that's what morse code is.

If it helps, you could try counting along, try to count the "ticks" of each flash. Where a short is 1 tick, you'll notice that a long is 3 ticks, and pauses are just 3 or 7 empty ticks. I'm bad at explaining.. If you've had music lessons you might know what I mean, otherwise: good luck, I don't know how to make it easier for you. But definitely not by altering the mechanics of the morsing.

I can handle it if I can hear it. It's the silent light that's hard, and the fact that the UI "glows" the light on, then "glows" the light off. Those fade-ins and fade-outs thwart my ability to edge detect the light changes well. The exact time the light goes on and the exact time the light goes off is a bit fuzzed by that.

i.e the light's brightness does this:

---- ------------ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---- ---- ------

Where I'd have a much easier time telling the long from the short if they had sharper edges likes so:
-------- ---------------- | | | | | | | | ------ -------- ------
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