Arma 2 has the most unrealistic controls ever made and no optimization

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Arma 2 has the most horrible movement, and mouse movements (positive and negative acceleration) that dont allow to aim realistically (unless you suck at shooters really bad) expecially at close range, maybe its realistic for those whose have problems with their muscles and nerves, so they move and aim the same way in real life.
Throwing is extremly limited and uncontrollable.

I use 400dpi and mouseSensitivityX=0.25; mouseSensitivityY=0.25; Turning 180 is way to slow.
When just using more DPI I can rotate like mad doing 360 turn in split second. When prone you can rotate ultra fast, which is unrealistic, prone in RO2 has hard limit, not negative acceleration, its much more realistic and you dont get annoyed by stupid mouse movement.
You cant use low sens like 30-60cm/360 here, negative acceleration will be so massive that you wont be able to turn at all.
Not alowing medium-low sensitivity gamers to play this game is stupid.

There is no excuse for wierd positive acceleration curve, it makes nothing realistic unless you have problems with your body control in real life.


1st person view that isnt camera in the head, its just 3d interface with ugly world model, because of this you cant always see when your weapon is colliding with something.


Its not possible to make realistic aiming and movement by restricting mouse movement. It will always be horrible and stupid.
(and Bohemia Interactive knows this and will correct it for Arma 3, hope they get it right this time)


Arma engine has no optimization at all and the game runs horrible on i5 2500k 4.5Ghz 8GB Ram and 560ti and not even on max.
Input lag is also not low enought, even with:
GPU_MaxFramesAhead=1
mouseSmoothing=0
+ alot of windows and bios tweaks.
On max settings input lag is ~100-200ms.

DayZ is great mod, too bad they decided to make it on this horrible engine.

[CruzCoda]

Originally posted by Berserker:

Your so stupid GetReady.
I said nothing bad about keybindings, they very are easy.
You didnt understand what I wrote because you are a casual player, so you have no problems with this console mouse input that Arma has.

That is your primary mistake. To diferentiate between casual and hardcore players. Thinking that you as a player are superior simply because you are 'hardcore'. In fact, you are no better than any other person. What makes you different is your view of the world and specifically, the gaming world.

Most important, though, is your point of our ability to aim. You are confusing 'aim' with our ability to actually utilize the mouse.

Without personal experience as to our ability to play the game, you are surmizing that we suck. That we as individuals are unable to actually handle the peripherals and the software we use. Which, again, you would be wrong about.

Your original post is about the technical aspects of ArmA 2's control schema. However, with each successive post, you have gradually moved into stating that anyone who plays the game obviously has no skill.

Our ultimate point is, if you enjoy a game enough, the technical hiccups do not matter. What matters is making the game suit our abilities, and working around the rest.

[Jakucha, Smokey Rat]

Berserker you know very well that you use hacks, you got them posted on your profile page, i dont give a ♥♥♥♥ what game its for, either way you use em. which makes you a silly little ♥♥♥♥♥. Not wasting your time accepting challenges from noobs? LOL since when does a real considerate gamer use that word?? you are afraid of us thats all, you know you will lose thus why you are declining them and making lame excuses. pathetic, Oh btw, shal i add a couple of RO2 and ArmA 2 videos to youtube just to rub it in your face that you really are wrong about my aim? i couldnt care less if you dont want me to, im gonna do it anyway. now if your so superior to us, why not upload your own videos and prove us wrong..since you are too scared to challenge any of us...see this is what happens when you try to ♥♥♥♥ with a community...

[Jakucha, Smokey Rat]

CruzCoda i dont think berserker understands you, he lacks the brains and mental power to understand these "complex" replies your giving him, its easy to tell because his vocabulary sucks, and his grammar is way off. Now im not saying mine is great either, but its definitely better.. People who lack the skills and brains to properly communicate resort to irrelevant and extremely stupid insults and statements, such as berserkers. So CruzCoda, why not just simply tell him hes a Moron and a troll (Which he obviously is), Maybe he will understand you xD

[Pvt.Erik]

Originally posted by Berserker:

Your so stupid GetReady.
I said nothing bad about keybindings, they very are easy.
You didnt understand what I wrote because you are a casual player, so you have no problems with this console mouse input that Arma has.

I've been playing Arma since it was called Operation Flashpoint.Someone who suggest that CoD's weaponhandling is more realistic than ArmA's is clearly a bad things for the community and should not be listened to.

[TABZ]

Hard to aim?, you got to be kidding me.. You can change your sensitivity, if you dont.. It's not the game but you that is not working correctly. The problem is, you hate the game because you're facing people like me. That means you got 2% chance to win because we are more trained. Come and play with MilGO on ACE servers, we will change your world and opinion about the game.

http://www.militarygaming.org/
PS: You need Six Updater to connect and download the mods from the server.

[dirty muff]

yeah i totally agree Call of Duty is way more realistic

[Lavenders2]

Originally posted by CruzCoda:

Originally posted by Berserker:

Your so stupid GetReady.
I said nothing bad about keybindings, they very are easy.
You didnt understand what I wrote because you are a casual player, so you have no problems with this console mouse input that Arma has.

That is your primary mistake. To diferentiate between casual and hardcore players. Thinking that you as a player are superior simply because you are 'hardcore'. In fact, you are no better than any other person. What makes you different is your view of the world and specifically, the gaming world.

Most important, though, is your point of our ability to aim. You are confusing 'aim' with our ability to actually utilize the mouse.

Without personal experience as to our ability to play the game, you are surmizing that we suck. That we as individuals are unable to actually handle the peripherals and the software we use. Which, again, you would be wrong about.

Your original post is about the technical aspects of ArmA 2's control schema. However, with each successive post, you have gradually moved into stating that anyone who plays the game obviously has no skill.

Our ultimate point is, if you enjoy a game enough, the technical hiccups do not matter. What matters is making the game suit our abilities, and working around the rest.

Oh my goodness. My faith in humanity has been restored after 7 pages of searching. You have earned my respect.

Now Beserker, technical quirks in a game of this scale is to be expected. Bohemia are working quite hard to fix as many as possible before Arma3 and they are doing quite a good job (You should have played the game before Operation Arrowhead. You would probably have left by now)

I have to ask though, if the controls suck so much that you have gone through the trouble to respond to 7 pages worth of posts about them and play a large amount of Arma2, why are you complaining about them? It seems rather trivial, and more to the point, realism is not crucial in a game.

Arma, in my eyes, is a well developed simulator. However, gameplay still comes first, since Arma is still a game. The controls are functioning, you are one of the few people who have problems with it. There are many reasons you may be suffering from this:
1. You are still getting the hang of the game. Arma takes a long time to master, like using a gun in real life.
2. Your hardware may not be configured well enough. I'm not too sure how many other shooters you have played though, so that probably isn't the case
3. You may have some settings (mouse smoothing?) that are interfering with your ability to play the game at your best potential. Again, not the biggest expert on this because I have never had a problem, but it seems like your issue is something to do with something on your end not set correctly

In terms of optimization, no the game is not greatly optimized. It is very complex and forgivable, but it appears to underperform most of the time. However, your hardware should be able to run the game well, maybe not on max, but at least it can run it well. There are some people who have to put the graphics on the lowest just to run the game, you are fortunate to be able to play this game at a relatively high quality. If you are unable to run this game on at least low with your hardware, something is very wrong and you may have to get your computer checked. Otherwise, your complaint about optimization is shallow and pointless.

But in the end, if your experience has not been pleasant, than perhaps now is the time to throw in the towel. Your persistence tells me that you do have a desire to play this game, but it clearly isn't working out for you. Perhaps go grab some tech support and see if they can solve your issues. For all we know it is something on your end, and not on Arma's end, considering that your complaint of controls seems quiet isolated. Otherwise, I would recommend tyring something else because the game maybe just isn't quite your standard. That is ok, there are plenty of games out there that you could be spending your time on right now rather than complaining about something trivial. Life is too short.

In the mean time, good luck and I hope to see that your problems are resolved in the near future!

[✨Rev✨]

You do realize its a SIMULATOR, and has to have alot of controls for certain unique things, and therefore they arent going to be able to have COD smooth contols. Also, you probably suck ♥♥♥♥ at the game.

[R1psaw]

Yea you better go back to realistic GAMES. Go play Cod and then tell me whats more real

[Skuba]

go ♥♥♥♥ yourself u just don't like because your bad at it.

[Khalashnikovf]

Troll Alert.
Easy answer to your aiming indisposibility ... A weapon has some certain weight, that means aiming is with every weapon different because it weights something. and also a "real" soldier cannot aim as you can in CoD,BF,WHATever game you like to shoot in. Arma is just simulating also weight of weapon. And if you can turn around in 360d in half second, who cares, your mouse is pretty ♥♥♥♥ and its just about lowering your sensitivity and smoothness.
And about that bad engine... common, just do be stupid that much

[B✪✪tsy]

Originally posted by Berserker:

the amount of trolls, casuals and stupid people in this thread is so overwhelming that it's just sad

Seriously dude go hang yourself or something. When there are people giving you long detailed mature and constructive responses and you only replying them with 'troll' this and that then you are the f*ing troll here. Now either stop playing ArmA and move on to an other game and other community or stick around and stop with your idiotic whining and have fun with the game. Yes ArmA is not perfect, no game is perfect, deal with it and get over it or be gone.

[TABZ]

I bet he never played ACE with ACRE, so let him do CoD and play with little boys and hackers and leave the real man do ArmA ;)

[SQUENIX BASED REMAKES]

Originally posted by Jedra:

I guess maybe you should go back and play some realistic games you might like. May I suggest Alien Vs Predator...

Pure gold lolz.

Looks at top realistic shooter games on OP page. MW2 and L4D2 and TF2. Yup. This isn't a shooter where you do sick 1080 no scope and jerk off your bros.

[K. Penney]

you spent a lot of time typing up some thing hateful about some thing i love. I'm going to spend a lot of time not reading your thoughts!