[SPOILERS] Possible sequel story

[jakov_xiv]

Let's assume that Spiders will create sequel to Technomancer (prequel is highly unlikely given we got in the Technomancer all the key informations about Mars' history and technomancers' origin). What direction will it take storywise? The possible endings are quite diverse, which leads me to think that Spiders have only four sequel options:

1) another semi-sequel - a new adventure that takes place during the same period of time, but perhaps in a different location (some other company?). IMO - unlikely. We've already got explanation for the biggest secrets behind Mars' and technomancers' history and we saw already (in some cases even twice) the biggest events of that period (war between Aurora and Abundance, uncover of Noctis, rise of the mutant nation, etc.). Besides, just how many times the players can go over the same historical background?
2) direct sequel - some kind of continuation of the adventure in the Technomancer (or at least new adventure involving known characters or places), taking place shortly after the events of the Technomancer, perhaps introducing new main character - possible, but IMO unlikely. Beacuse the events after the game ending have shaken the whole Mars colony, devs can't just ignore them. That means Spiders would have to choose canon Technomancer ending to make it happen, or make up a sudden event that makes all the choices made in Technomancer negligible. Players don't like making their choices negligible (#masseffect3endinggate);
3) indirect sequel - a new adventure on Mars colony after long period of time, most probably with all-new cast of characters, with only some references to the first two installments - IMO most likely. About 50-100 years after the main events n the Technomancer would be enough to easily deal with the different endings, include improvements to the lore and game mechanics and yet remain some kind of connection with the earlier stories;
4) MassEffectAndromeda-style fresh start - a completely new adventure in the same universe, yet in different setiing and/or time (something like "meanwhile on Jupiter..."). IMO highly unlikely (however, if Mass Effect Andromeda delivers, who knows?...).

I would be pleased to hear your thoughts :)

[player1]

Both 1 and 3 are very likely, in my opinion.

War Logs explored story from Aurora point of view.
Technomancer from the Abundance point of view.

And then, there is the Alliance, another company that was just hinted through this game through the dialogue, about which very little is known, exempt they have good technology, and are not at war with other two companies.

I bet next game will revolve about Alliance in some way. Either as side story at same time as both games (thus not requiring "cannon" ending from both games), or some time after it, or even both.

Also, there is a matter of Abundance Dowser. The leader character of Abundance was completely hidden from the game, shown only on couple of propaganda posters. So that may be another character that could play the big role in next game, now that Victor is out of power.

[player1]

And lets add another side discussion here.

What is most likely cannon ending of War Logs?

Victory of rebels or army forces?

One scenario gives back Greenhope to Abundance and one does not.

Do both scenarios fit in narrative of Technomancer?

Currently, from Technomancer narrative, only thing known is that Aurora Dowser was killed. And that it was not common knowledge in Abundance leadership.

So it makes more likely that Aurora military won? Is other ending possible using currently known Tecnomancer narrative, since rebels would require Abundance help in order to win, thus selling out Greenhope?

[jakov_xiv]

Originally posted by player1:

And lets add another side discussion here.

What is most likely cannon ending of War Logs?

Victory of rebels or army forces?

One scenario gives back Greenhope to Abundance and one does not.

Do both scenarios fit in narrative of Technomancer?

Currently, from Technomancer narrative, only thing known is that Aurora Dowser was killed. And that it was not common knowledge in Abundance leadership.

So it makes more likely that Aurora military won? Is other ending possible using currently known Tecnomancer narrative, since rebels would require Abundance help in order to win, thus selling out Greenhope?

Well, I haven't played MWL, but I am sure that in my playthrough it was stated that Aurora won the war with Abundance after taking the Greenhope and there was no info about Abundance taking it back. Adding it to what you said indicates that Spiders decided to choose canon ending of MWL, and that was the victory of army forces.

If they would like to choose the canon ending of Technomancer, then the option to not reveal truth about Earth would be chosen, I think. It makes the least changes in Mars colony.

[player1]

In MWL, Aurora also won the war and took Greenhope (that is state of affairs after 1st act of MWL), but later if you side with rebels they reveal they got backing from Abundance, and in case they win, leads to them giving back Greenhope to Abundance. And this happens after Dowser death, as epilogue information.

Now, that could happen awhile after both MWL and Technomancer endings, but that would not explain Abundance leadership not being aware about this. Exempt maybe if it was deal with ASC and kept secret from Assembly (until Victor death)?

Anyway, in case of any sequel Greenhope it probably back in Abundance control. Either through deal or next war.

[jakov_xiv]

Originally posted by player1:

In MWL, Aurora also won the war and took Greenhope (that is state of affairs after 1st act of MWL), but later if you side with rebels they reveal they got backing from Abundance, and in case they win, leads to them giving back Greenhope to Abundance. And this happens after Dowser death, as epilogue information.

Now, that could happen awhile after both MWL and Technomancer endings, but that would not explain Abundance leadership not being aware about this. Exempt maybe if it was deal with ASC and kept secret from Assembly (until Victor death)?

Anyway, in case of any sequel Greenhope it probably back in Abundance control. Either through deal or next war.

Maybe Spiders didn't want to choose canon MWL ending and made it unclear on purpose? It's a good question for the devs, but I don't know where to catch them. A little offtop, but does somebody know if there is a place where Spiders keep in touch with the players? I dunno if we can already call players a "Spiders community", but I would really appreciate if they created something like Bioware Forums (which are actually closing right now - such a pity :/), where players could discuss story and gameplay elements. They started some promising topics here but don't seem to care about them much (where are those promised dev logs???).

Back to the topic. I must agree with you that doing another simultanous story is doable, but what's the point of it? The franchise universe is actually quite small. As interesting as it is, its scale is nowhere near Thedas for example. There's really not that much more to explore IMO, at least nothing drastically different from what we already have seen.

In Technomancer main story concetrated on both faction rivalries and solving mysteries of Mars. We watched the biggest conflict between biggest Mars factions two times, I don't think the third time and third point of view would be that interesting. It's just not that large and complex to explore once again, I think.

Aside from that, all of the Mars factions are somehow connected, so even if we were to go to one of smaller corporations not involved in war, then what would we actually do there? The faction rivalries would have to be smaller in scale. And we have all the key mysteries of Mars already solved (mysteries of Earth and Technomancers' origin), so nothing to explore in that part.

My point is, I really believe the devs have to move on and invent something new. I only hope they won't go the Fable way and won't throw away the technomancers concept, like the Hero guild concept was thrown away in Fable 2.

[Paxu]

to me both mars war logs and technomancer are side by side pre-qeuals setting the stage for the main story.

[jakov_xiv]

Originally posted by Paxus22:

to me both mars war logs and technomancer are side by side pre-qeuals setting the stage for the main story.

That could be really interesting.