Is this supposed to be fun?

[bleahy]

I just saw a video on YouTube that said this game was a lot of fun. So I downloaded the demo/tutorial and let it walk me through part of a sample game which seemed amusing but I wanted to just play for myself. So I bought the game and started my first real game. So far the game consists of the villain and her henchmen taking all the cards from my heroes. Then my heroes get some cards but before they can play them they get taken. This just keeps repeating. So far I have not taken a single shot at anyone. What's the point? Where's the fun?

[takers2]

hard to say what's going on as every villian is different as well as the environments and heroes. My suggestion would be to start a game against Baron Blade to learn the ropes.

[Du-Vu]

Sounds like bad luck, but it’s a card game. The draws are random, mostly. Which villain is this? Some of them are harder than others. But it’s okay to lose while you’re getting to know the game. This is a game of many short playthroughs, meant to be replayed many times.

Your heroes are going to make a difference as well. As you get to know the decks, you can choose teams based on roles and synergies. Some of them have powers which can deal damage without any cards in hand. Some of them can draw more cards or heal. Some are more about direct damage, healing, tanking, deck control, removing minions, etc, in various combinations. You learn as you play, and getting to understand them and seeing how to use them against the villains is where it starts to get fun.

[cygnia]

Who were you facing and what was your team?

[origamiswami]

I'm gonna guess you were fighting Citizen Dawn and got Citizen Tears and Citizen Sweat at the start? Possibly a Blinding Blast as well in the first few turns.

[melkathi]

Villains have a difficulty rating. I'd suggest playing against lower difficulty villains first (Baron Blade, then Omnitron, then progress to General Voss and leave Citizen Dawn for when you are a bit more familiar with the game and have an easier time keeping all the things in mind that will happen during the villain turn or the environment turn.

Also check complexity rating on heroes. It doesn't necessarily make a hero better or worse, but Absolute Zero for example is not necessarily a beginner friendly hero. With heroes like Ra or Haka on the other hand, even if you play less than optimal, you are still doing stuff.

[Godsheal Powerloader]

Don't start against citizen dawn or omnitron, the base pack villains have some idiotic and excessive mass removals the devs eventually toned down on the next ones.

[melkathi]

Originally posted by Omar Telo D. Rego:

Don't start against citizen dawn or omnitron

Yeah, everyone knows, you start up against Chairman or Iron Legacy!

:)

[Godsheal Powerloader]

Originally posted by melkathi:

Originally posted by Omar Telo D. Rego:

Don't start against citizen dawn or omnitron

Yeah, everyone knows, you start up against Chairman or Iron Legacy!

:)

First thing, OP said he "bought the game", but never specified which expansios, so it is reasonably possible he got only the base pack for starters.

Second, base pack is plagued with stuff from whose experience the devs learned from (notice how the next heroes have much more difficulty dealing insane ammounts of damage and making devastating plays with relatively few resources, just like the following villains have much less idiotic and insta game ending mass removes; compare omnitron's flechettes and singularity, citizen dawn's aurora with, like, apostate's armageddon, capitán's raiding party and the like). It becomes even more evident as OP is frustrated by the constant removes, which is valid.

Of course, IL and chairman are challenging, but their removes are not main issues.

As it is said in south park: "aaaaaand it's gone!"

[Tatra]

Originally posted by bleahy:

I just saw a video on YouTube that said this game was a lot of fun. So I downloaded the demo/tutorial and let it walk me through part of a sample game which seemed amusing but I wanted to just play for myself. So I bought the game and started my first real game. So far the game consists of the villain and her henchmen taking all the cards from my heroes. Then my heroes get some cards but before they can play them they get taken. This just keeps repeating. So far I have not taken a single shot at anyone. What's the point? Where's the fun?

As everyone else has said, it sounds like you may have just started with a tough villain and got a bad draw, which does suck; don't be deterred, try against someone else!

With that said, a part of the "meta" you'll develop is getting a handle on which heroes work well against which villains. Some heroes give a lot of card draw, which helps recovery against villains who grab your stuff. Some rely on buildup to really get going while others are better at "making do" with whatever they happen to have available at the time, that sort of thing. You don't need to know that, any villain can be beaten with any team, but as you play more you'll get a sense of who can better handle what. Then you can come back and kick that villain's ass with a team you know can deal with whatever they throw at you!

As a bit of general advice; Wraith, Tempest and Fanatic are all good base-game generalists. They all have decent ways to do good damage, a good variety of tools to handle tricky situations, and some clever gimmicks that can break the game in little ways (Wraith can let you control the villain's deck, Tempest can pull cards you had to discard back into your hand, and Fanatic can wipe the whole board... great revenge against a villain that just did that to you). If in doubt, include one or two of those on your team, and you'll have a decent chance against just about anyone

[Captainjoe17]

It's important to get heroes that are both support and ones that deal damage. For example Legacy is an excellent support hero with being able to increase damage with his base ability and other cards as well as redirect damage.

Tempest deals a lot of AOE damage and is pretty useful at wiping out many of the minions and devices of certain villains.

Ra is all about dealing damage. Pretty much mandatory to have someone play Ra if limited to the base set.

Imbuded Fire + Galvanize + Inspired Presence turns most villains into paste even on Ultimate Mode.

[Captainjoe17]

Tachyon is great to draw more cards faster and does a bit of everything but my usual setup is Legacy + Lady Liberty + Ra + Tempest + Deadline make the best combo.

Especially since Deadline can AOE everyone with buffed damage and not kill himself if Legacy has Heroic Interception in play.

[General Frost]

I would suggest turning on the option to make it so you have to click for cards to go away and the game continues so you can read every card that's coming up then you will know whats going on more clearly. You are able to just adjust the speed of progress also i believe. Also start with difficulty 1/2 heroes and bosses as they usually have less complex systems.

[Godsheal Powerloader]

Originally posted by General Frost:

I would suggest turning on the option to make it so you have to click for cards to go away and the game continues so you can read every card that's coming up then you will know whats going on more clearly. You are able to just adjust the speed of progress also i believe. Also start with difficulty 1/2 heroes and bosses as they usually have less complex systems.

Dude's issue is not with enemies' complexity, but with the annoying and constant mass removals villains used to have in the base box.

[Saturn]

Originally posted by Godsheal Powerloader:

Originally posted by melkathi:

Yeah, everyone knows, you start up against Chairman or Iron Legacy!

:)

First thing, OP said he "bought the game", but never specified which expansios, so it is reasonably possible he got only the base pack for starters.

Second, base pack is plagued with stuff from whose experience the devs learned from (notice how the next heroes have much more difficulty dealing insane ammounts of damage and making devastating plays with relatively few resources, just like the following villains have much less idiotic and insta game ending mass removes; compare omnitron's flechettes and singularity, citizen dawn's aurora with, like, apostate's armageddon, capitán's raiding party and the like). It becomes even more evident as OP is frustrated by the constant removes, which is valid.

Of course, IL and chairman are challenging, but their removes are not main issues.

As it is said in south park: "aaaaaand it's gone!"

Seeing as this is a digital version, why wouldn't they just balance out those villains?

[Feral Yoda]

Originally posted by Saturn:

Originally posted by Godsheal Powerloader:

First thing, OP said he "bought the game", but never specified which expansios, so it is reasonably possible he got only the base pack for starters.

Second, base pack is plagued with stuff from whose experience the devs learned from (notice how the next heroes have much more difficulty dealing insane ammounts of damage and making devastating plays with relatively few resources, just like the following villains have much less idiotic and insta game ending mass removes; compare omnitron's flechettes and singularity, citizen dawn's aurora with, like, apostate's armageddon, capitán's raiding party and the like). It becomes even more evident as OP is frustrated by the constant removes, which is valid.

Of course, IL and chairman are challenging, but their removes are not main issues.

As it is said in south park: "aaaaaand it's gone!"

Seeing as this is a digital version, why wouldn't they just balance out those villains?

Because its a faithful reproduction of the board/card game. I mean the way the game works sometimes you get a bad shuffle. And sometimes you don't. The base box can be a bit brutal at times with those bad shuffles, but if you know what you're doing you can often still win. The expansion heroes and environments definitely help that out though.