Question regarding the game's Complexity & Difficulty listings

[Deej-O-Matic]

I was getting together a one page spreadsheet for my physical copy of the game for hero complexity and the villain difficulty for when I bring it to the local comic shop for boardgame nights. I saw Chokepoint listed as a Difficulty 1 in the game and had the mini-expansion backing handy which lists her as a Difficulty 2. I then flipped open the Core Rulebook which lists Gloomweaver as Difficulty 3 and then my Rook City/Infernal Relics supplement which lists him as 1. These oddities are not limited to a few villains either.

With all the discrepincies I'm finding on these, would it be safe for me to take the video game's Complexity and Difficulty as the most official, citable source? At least until the Collector's Box is made. Plus it gives me numbers to use for the variants as well.

[Lynkfox]

yeah, Gloomy started as a 3 but quickly turned out ot be not so difficult in the long run. Future reprintings of sets adjusted his difficulty, same as with Chokepoint and a few others.

Take the Video game as the lastest word of gossple, because it is, and then look for OblivAeon's difficulty sheet as the final say when it comes out.

[Deej-O-Matic]

Will do! And the video game has the added benefit of numbers being able to be changed later.

[lord wolfhunt]

Just saying, I have found that villain difficulty is more subjective than anything. For example, I find General Voss a piece of cake, I find Spite hard, and I find anbuscuade could go either way. Hero complexity is a bit more accurate to me. If you enjoy the game and plan to introduce it to other people, it might be best to play it by ear.

[Sarasvato]

Is there an Environement dificulty chart somewhere?

[Mr Mopsy]

Kind of http://mindwanderer.net/sotm/. Its all game log entries logged in this https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeOjRTJHDrEuJ7ifOuZcDWYnC9ZEZiaGa-tcCDwAPIgYRPzPQ/viewform#start=invite

[Deej-O-Matic]

引用自 lord wolfhunt：

Just saying, I have found that villain difficulty is more subjective than anything. For example, I find General Voss a piece of cake, I find Spite hard, and I find anbuscuade could go either way. Hero complexity is a bit more accurate to me. If you enjoy the game and plan to introduce it to other people, it might be best to play it by ear.

Agreed. I just wanted an offical signpost to go on in case I walk away from the table while people are setting up, or if someone has played the core game but none of the Expansions. And I know it's heresay but I put down Guise as Complexity 3.

I played around with the idea of having a seperate list for the variant heroes, but I think I'd put up a houserule that you need to win a game with a standard version of the hero before trying out the variants. Just so they have a better understanding of how the character works.


Also I think they mentioned official Environment difficulty printed on the Collector's Case, but I don't know if I'm remembering that correctly or not.

[takers2]

Also advanced villians can be wildly different. I find Advanced Infinitor to be one of the most difficult villians in the game, and certainly a world apart from basic infinitor. However, some villians advanced modes are only slightly more difficult and wouldn't really warrant a change in difficulty (especially when there are only "4" difficulty levels.

[powerhound_2000]

Advanced and Challenge isn't meant to be fair or normal gameplay so I wouldn't bother trying to set what difficulty they have. Just know they shouldn't be played until you are at least familiar with the villain.

[takers2]

Yes, my point was that the advanced doesn't take it into account, which you seem to have echoed. That being said I certainly think they could be quantified, they aren't all equal, though I would probably change the overall scale from 1-4 to 1-10. Even on the current scale with so many villians in the game, the 4's aren't really all even.