DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

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culpinha Feb 15, 2024 @ 3:40pm
Faith scaling
Hi,

Normally i use a Sword with Faith scaling, but somehow this game doesn't change the weapon scaling when you use the lightning stone.

Is it possible to change the scaling from Dexterity to Faith in this game?

Thanks in advance :rbrbu2:
Originally posted by JellyPuff:
The scaling letters can be very misleading on infused weapons (and even on uninfused one's in regards to STR vs. DEX or for "S"-scaling).

Infusing a purely physical weapon is usually only worth doing, if it has much higher base AR infused and you intend on keeping your STR/DEX low.
Giving a purely physical weapon an elemental infusion will trash the STR/DEX scaling and only add a very tiny amount of INT/FTH scaling in return, despite what the scaling letters may suggest.
As a bonus, "Ring of Blades" scaling will also be slashes in half most of the time.

To make things more confusing, there are hybrid weapons, which respond more uniquely to specific infusions. For example, a poison-infused Manslayer will barely lose DEX scaling or the scaling bonus from Ring of Blades.

If you infuse the Uchigata with lightning, you now have a weapon that technically scales with DEX and FTH, but so little, that it's just not worth leveling those stats for the increase in damage alone. Despite having "B" in both DEX and FTH, it's like half a damage per level on average. You'd need something like 80 levels total in DEX/FTH, just to get a scaling bonus equivalent to simply equipping Flynn's Ring[darksouls2.wikidot.com].
That doesn't mean it's not worth infusing. It just means that STR/DEX beyond the required stats doesn't do much for you and that you shouldn't level FTH only to get more lightning damage. This weapon still infuses well, so it's strong either way; Pure DEX or min. required stats + lightning infusion, especially if you wanna use spellbuffs, like Sunlight Blade, because spellbuffs in DS2 scale with the buffed weapon's total base damage (before scaling), which is higher on an elementally infused Uchi. Add it's very high counter-damage value of x1.5 times the damage and you'll hit enemies that aren't too lightning-resistant[darksouls2.wikidot.com] like a truck, when trading hits or whiff punishing them.

You can use build calculators, like Soulsplanner[soulsplanner.com] or Mugenmonkey, to get an idea, how weapon scaling is affected and toy around with different infusions before making any investments in-game.
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AerSilver ♞ Feb 15, 2024 @ 3:44pm 
What were you trying to infuse with lightning? Sometimes it does increase the scaling from let's say "B", to B but highlighted in blue implying there's an increase.
culpinha Feb 15, 2024 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by AerSilver ♞:
What were you trying to infuse with lightning? Sometimes it does increase the scaling from let's say "B", to B but highlighted in blue implying there's an increase.
I'm trying to infuse the Uchigatana with lightning, but only the scalings of Str and Dex appears, int and faith still the same. It only appear in blue the lighting symbol.
Last edited by culpinha; Feb 15, 2024 @ 3:48pm
AerSilver ♞ Feb 15, 2024 @ 4:21pm 
With the uchi you should get a C scaling lightning infused at +0, that goes up to B
STR is still E but dex goes down from B to C, but gets back to a weaker B at +10
culpinha Feb 15, 2024 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by AerSilver ♞:
With the uchi you should get a C scaling lightning infused at +0, that goes up to B
STR is still E but dex goes down from B to C, but gets back to a weaker B at +10
I get it now, so even though the weapon scaling doesn't show A/B/C/D as faith, as long as it has the lighting scale, it would work fine. Right?
AerSilver ♞ Feb 15, 2024 @ 4:27pm 
Yeah I wouldn't worry about the actual number but the AR instead.
There's no way a lightning infused uchi doesn't scale better from faith than a normal one
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JellyPuff Feb 15, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
The scaling letters can be very misleading on infused weapons (and even on uninfused one's in regards to STR vs. DEX or for "S"-scaling).

Infusing a purely physical weapon is usually only worth doing, if it has much higher base AR infused and you intend on keeping your STR/DEX low.
Giving a purely physical weapon an elemental infusion will trash the STR/DEX scaling and only add a very tiny amount of INT/FTH scaling in return, despite what the scaling letters may suggest.
As a bonus, "Ring of Blades" scaling will also be slashes in half most of the time.

To make things more confusing, there are hybrid weapons, which respond more uniquely to specific infusions. For example, a poison-infused Manslayer will barely lose DEX scaling or the scaling bonus from Ring of Blades.

If you infuse the Uchigata with lightning, you now have a weapon that technically scales with DEX and FTH, but so little, that it's just not worth leveling those stats for the increase in damage alone. Despite having "B" in both DEX and FTH, it's like half a damage per level on average. You'd need something like 80 levels total in DEX/FTH, just to get a scaling bonus equivalent to simply equipping Flynn's Ring[darksouls2.wikidot.com].
That doesn't mean it's not worth infusing. It just means that STR/DEX beyond the required stats doesn't do much for you and that you shouldn't level FTH only to get more lightning damage. This weapon still infuses well, so it's strong either way; Pure DEX or min. required stats + lightning infusion, especially if you wanna use spellbuffs, like Sunlight Blade, because spellbuffs in DS2 scale with the buffed weapon's total base damage (before scaling), which is higher on an elementally infused Uchi. Add it's very high counter-damage value of x1.5 times the damage and you'll hit enemies that aren't too lightning-resistant[darksouls2.wikidot.com] like a truck, when trading hits or whiff punishing them.

You can use build calculators, like Soulsplanner[soulsplanner.com] or Mugenmonkey, to get an idea, how weapon scaling is affected and toy around with different infusions before making any investments in-game.
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