DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

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Davi Apr 22, 2015 @ 8:57pm
Does armor matter?
I was playing the game and planning to use heavy armor. But i read at some forums that armor doesn't really matter at this game and that i should use what i like. Is that true?
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JustTooks Apr 22, 2015 @ 8:59pm 
It helps in the NG though its hard to find an armour set at low SL that doesn't weigh you down so much you eat up every single hit from an enemy because you can't dodge.

NG+ wearing heavy armour is pretty much the difference of taking 3 hits to die or 4 hits to die. It can help you last if you get lucky but for the most part you're probably going to want to be faster so you can dodge than you would want to be weighed down.
Davi Apr 22, 2015 @ 9:01pm 
So medium armor is the way to go? I also saw some guys saying that they play with no armor at all and that it doesn't make any difference... i'm kinda confused with that.
Last edited by Davi; Apr 22, 2015 @ 9:01pm
JustTooks Apr 22, 2015 @ 9:03pm 
Anything that puts you above 70% of your max equip load slows down your movement/dodge roll. I'm guessing those who don't wear armour 'because it doesnt make a difference' are just really good at avoiding being hit.
gilrad Apr 22, 2015 @ 10:38pm 
On one hand armor doesn't help terribly much, but on the other it's only 15-20 levels into the equipment weight stat + Third Dragon Ring, and you can wear some pretty heavy armor and still roll effectively.

So in high levels the effect is low, but the investment is pretty low too.
Ganger Apr 22, 2015 @ 10:45pm 
I can now wear full havels armor with havels shield and swinging a large sword but I have well over 50 in Vit and my full load is under 60 with ring. But my other stats have suffered but being able to wear heavy armor and roll makes the different.
The Fluffy Enigma Apr 22, 2015 @ 11:08pm 
some hard stats and observations, if you like that stuff:

heavy armor costs, at most, 40 equip load, unless you're Havel, then you can go f urself. That shouldn't be a problem for you if you have 20 vit or 15 and tdr, unless you're also using a skyscraper as a weapon, or a greatshield, in which case you shouldn't need armor.

5 points of armor should shrug off 1 point of damage.

the 250 or so points from light to medium or medium to heavy negates flynn's ring

fast weapons and multihit weapons are a joke against very heavy armor, but they can still consistently stagger you if they know what they're doing.

ultras work well against heavy armor because, obviously, they hit harder, but also the movement and stamina penalties of the armor make the ultras less terrible.

elemental damage is percentage based, so forget heavy armor if you plan on eating a crystal soul spear.

and all buffs/effects that add physical damage are added each hit, but also subtracted each hit, so high counter weapons are more effective vs armor than high dps weapons/buffs.
Last edited by The Fluffy Enigma; Apr 22, 2015 @ 11:10pm
Kirmukarmu Apr 22, 2015 @ 11:38pm 
Of course armor matters.
Pewpewmoar Apr 23, 2015 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by vaunumies:
Of course armor matters.


NG++, wearing light legs and a tseldora hat, no chest armor,zero reach on my weapons, I disagree.

Depending on your playstyle, armor *can* be important. For tanky builds where you're using a shield a lot, the extra poise can be very useful.

If you have a decent amount of agility and a light equip load, dodging is way more important. And if you're dodging a lot, armor makes zero difference, since you shouldn't be being hit in the first place.
Jäger Apr 23, 2015 @ 1:52am 
Originally posted by Pewpewmoar:
Originally posted by vaunumies:
Of course armor matters.

Depending on your playstyle, armor *can* be important. For tanky builds where you're using a shield a lot, the extra poise can be very useful.


Agreed, i tank a lot with axes, greatswords, i always stay close to mobs and bosses, and i definitely need a good armor but not too heavy since i'm always dodging.
That's why i suggest Drangleic armor: the set (without helmet) can be found at the beginning after The Pursuer. It's decent and does not recquire an insane strength.
Phantius Apr 23, 2015 @ 2:26am 
I pretty much use armour for Fasion Souls.
Timeraider Apr 23, 2015 @ 2:44am 
I just have some medium/leather armorpieces to at least reduce some magic dmg etc. but stacking ADP untill you can dodge litterally anything works fine to
P.Nut Apr 23, 2015 @ 2:49am 
Of course armour matters... How else are you gonna Fashion Souls?


But yeah, depends on your playstyle like people have been saying.
Syd Khaos Apr 23, 2015 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by Pewpewmoar:
Originally posted by vaunumies:
Of course armor matters.


NG++, wearing light legs and a tseldora hat, no chest armor,zero reach on my weapons, I disagree.

Depending on your playstyle, armor *can* be important. For tanky builds where you're using a shield a lot, the extra poise can be very useful.

If you have a decent amount of agility and a light equip load, dodging is way more important. And if you're dodging a lot, armor makes zero difference, since you shouldn't be being hit in the first place.

I kinda have an issue with this logic.....
Sure..if your fast to dodge with alot of stamina you should IDEALY not be getting hit.....but your not going the whole game, dont care how good ya are.

Was in the Army for 6years....not a single day I went out in field was I not wearing body armor. Did I plan on getting shot daily...HELL NO.....but ya put it on with the off chance it may happen.

Based on the off chance you will eventualy get hit few times here and there even when dodging it seems to me armor is somewhat important to everyone....its just the degree of this importance that changes.


FYI...had I followed the armor is pointless because I dont plan on getting shot logic I would not be here right not to post htis....several times over in fact.
Last edited by Syd Khaos; Apr 23, 2015 @ 4:27am
Pewpewmoar Apr 23, 2015 @ 4:38am 
Yes, but this is a video game, not real people shooting at me with actual guns. If I screw up, I respawn at a bonfire.
Syd Khaos Apr 23, 2015 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Pewpewmoar:
Yes, but this is a video game, not real people shooting at me with actual guns. If I screw up, I respawn at a bonfire.

Then you should qualify your previous statement as such:
"Armor is pointless if you dodge, and dont mind getting killed every now and then from being supersquishy"
=)

I just cant go without all my armor slot filled...even my 'ninja' build uses light armor......could neber run around shirtless like I see so many..that lil OCD part of the brain would kick in...that little voice tellling how impractical im being....thats just how my head works though, more power to the shirtless ninjas!
Last edited by Syd Khaos; Apr 23, 2015 @ 4:59am
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