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SenMithrarin85 has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 6:33pm

Heide Tower of Flame is beyond rediculous.

I don't shy away from games based on difficulty. I even beat the Ninja Gaiden games wihout too much trouble. But this...this is beyond rediculous.

02:31 a.m. GMT: I yield to this game. I cannot do it....anyone who can progress in this game let alone finish it alone is a far better gamer than me.

Well that's hard earned money down the drain...sigh...

Edit: Vicory achieved! I managed to take down the dragon and then the Old Dragonslayer. Just beaten No Man's Wharf and The Lost Bastille. Have to say the Lost Sinner was surprisingly easy. If anything it was harder to get past the copy of the Wharf boss that waits for you in the flooded passage on the way to it.

But geez, what is with the Pursuer? I had to fight and kill it twice in the Bastille!

Maybe I'm getting better or maybe I was trying to take on the Optional boss at the Heide Tower too early. Either way, progress is being made. Slowly, but painfully, progress is being made. I don't fully understand the mechanics of the multiplayer side of the game, but maybe the fact that my pride refuses the aid of Shades and Phantoms, means I'm getting more souls to myself?

Last edited by SenMithrarin85; Apr 9, 2015 @ 7:43am

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bone

Apr 7, 2015 @ 6:37pm

This is one of the beginner areas, what part are you stuck on, exactly?

SenMithrarin85 has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 6:41pm

Originally posted by bone:
This is one of the beginner areas, what part are you stuck on, exactly?

Trying to get to the Old Dragon Rider (thinks thats its name) getting swamped by damned heide knights and a trio of giant ones. Manage to beat them, then a sodding dragon kills me :(

I'm level 41 if that helps.

ChaosBahamut has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 6:46pm

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:
Originally posted by bone:
This is one of the beginner areas, what part are you stuck on, exactly?

Trying to get to the Old Dragon Rider (thinks thats its name) getting swamped by damned heide knights and a trio of giant ones. Manage to beat them, then a sodding dragon kills me :(

I'm level 41 if that helps.

After you clear the other enemies (make sure not to agro the drake), go to where the drake is and as he's waking up go Leeroy Jenkins on his ass and run to him.

Seriously. (make sure you have enough Stamina)

As for the giant knights, try a strike weapon.

Rajiin Terra has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 6:57pm

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:
I even beat the Ninja Gaiden games ..

When did they become difficult and at all comparable, hell newest one was just a QTE and victory.

Anyway don't give up on these games, the 3 souls games and their expansions/dlc's are amazing (Well, I can't speak for demon souls, never played it.) Look the entire game can honestly be done at SL1, it's all in how you play it. So I have two bits of advice for you starting out like this, use a shield that can stop majority of physical damage, plenty of 95% block ones out there. Or alternatively, put your adaptability up to 20 and learn their patterns and dodge all their attacks. Keep with it mate, the game is worth it.

psheue

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:02pm

Don't give up. Most people struggle at first, but if you´re patient you'll end up loving it.

SolusiRadikal has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:04pm

Welcome to Dark Souls, if you can't progress alone try calling for backup.

cplmortonra has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:10pm

Originally posted by Rajiin Terra:
Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:
I even beat the Ninja Gaiden games ..

When did they become difficult and at all comparable, hell newest one was just a QTE and victory.

Anyway don't give up on these games, the 3 souls games and their expansions/dlc's are amazing (Well, I can't speak for demon souls, never played it.) Look the entire game can honestly be done at SL1, it's all in how you play it. So I have two bits of advice for you starting out like this, use a shield that can stop majority of physical damage, plenty of 95% block ones out there. Or alternatively, put your adaptability up to 20 and learn their patterns and dodge all their attacks. Keep with it mate, the game is worth it.

A note on the shields. there is the drangelic shield you can pick up after beating the pursuer in his area in the forest of fallen giants. has 100% block to physical. Also a question. I ran a 110 agility build pretty much all through the original release of ds2 and that required 37-39ish into adaptability. Is all I need is around 20 now?

Bird of Few Birds has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:16pm

Just come back later, those Heide Knights will destroy any new character.

puzzlefox

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:16pm

Come back to heid's tower of flame later. Go through bastille and kill the lost sinner, then do heide tower.

Also, the heide first bonfire is REALLY ♥♥♥♥♥♥. If you want to play it safe, get there through majula and kill everything one at a time with arrows (you'll need a lot of arrows). You can even kill that stupid dragon with arrows from the area at the foot of the stairs. He'll shoot fireballs at you, so you'll need to peek corners. EVERYTHING in that area will only chase after you for so long, so just keep running back and wait for them to start retreating, then blast them with arrows.

it's not the honorable or pro way to do things, but it works.

3am UberEats has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:23pm

i did the forrest area first still had a little trouble. At some point you get a club. two hand it and use the overhead attack even as a dex char i can three shot the big knights and then for the smaller knights you can chain knock them down

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Narco Stims has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 7:32pm

buy a mace, and heides tower takes care of itself

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AshenHollow has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Apr 7, 2015 @ 8:04pm

You should do the forest first if you haven't, in the orignial DS2 I had the same problem you did with tackling heide's tower of flame first. The Forest of Fallen Gaints (?) is good to get your ears wet and learn the basics, letting you figure out your character and playstyle. After you clear that area, go and do Heide's.

Tip for the stone knight's, go to your left/their right, doing this will cause 2 out of their 3 sword swings to miss you. For the heide knights, these guys are buggers. Be careful if they just seem to stop attacking you, they'll do a quick attack that has no tells. Try and counter them to kill them quickly and seperate them from their stone knight friends. The drake...honestly not sure how to do it solo, had some friends help me by baiting out its fireball attack, then rushing it.

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LastSide

Apr 7, 2015 @ 8:09pm

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:
Originally posted by bone:
This is one of the beginner areas, what part are you stuck on, exactly?

Trying to get to the Old Dragon Rider (thinks thats its name) getting swamped by damned heide knights and a trio of giant ones. Manage to beat them, then a sodding dragon kills me :(

I'm level 41 if that helps.

For the dragon you can equip a bow/crossbow, buy a couple hundreds arrows/bolts, its takes a lot less than the dragon from DS1, and pelt it with arrows from the lower lvl in first person view (for Crossbows, hold it with 2 hands first).

Pay attention when it goes airborne, hes about to shoot a fireball, move around to dodge it.

I killed it with the first Crossbow and like 30-40 shots.. I think it was a lot less... he was getting like 99 damage.

Last edited by LastSide; Apr 7, 2015 @ 8:11pm

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Ophenius

Apr 7, 2015 @ 8:19pm

If you can, just buy about 100 cheap arrows and shoot the dragon from afar while dodging each fireball after. Tedious, but it gets the job done safely.

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