Moonlight great sword or Crystal soul spear for first play through?

[LLoyd Christmas]

I am going to burn a BA before the boss (not sure if a certain bon fire matters?), but wanted to know if there is a clear winner between the two. I am purely INT+ATN build with 50 of each and sorceries. The double slot for CSP has me a little skeptical but not sure if it’s really that good, or if I should just get the MGS. Currently using Fire longsword lol, but been using sorceries about 95% of the time.

Thank you

[Ki$kA]

Moonlight great sword

[Ki$kA]

Or Crystal soul spear.... it's good, but ordinary soul spears are also powerful + have more charges

[Enderspoons]

You'll need to burn your bonfire ascetic at the third bonfire if you want the boss respawn to occur.

[JellyPuff]

CSS is basically your nuke spell. MLGS is fun but gimmicky.

But there's nothing stopping you from getting both. The difference in difficulty between bonfire intensity 2 and intensity 3 is negligible, so just burn yet another ascetic, once you've burned your first and killed Freja again.

[Paradox]

I guess the question is whether your build uses the sword or not. Just about every sorcery build is going to use crystal soul spear.

If your build doesn't use the sword, then, obviously, grab the spell and no need to do the boss again. If it does use the sword, just do the boss one more time (or have someone drop it to you, even better)... Not complicated.

And, you may even want more than one CSS... You could get a bunch and not have to bother using anything else... At least in PVE (a bunch of copies of CSS and Crown of the Old Iron King basically means infinite CSS).

[LLoyd Christmas]

Well I don’t have nearly the Str or Dex to wield the MGS, but I do have 52 Int (57 with the Ring), but I could farm levels.

Speaking of which, could anyone PLEASE tell me of any even decent soul farming areas? The best one I found so far was the doors of pharros bonfire with CoC, and just kill the big dude over and over. It isn’t bad but are there any better ones if I am up to defeating Old Iron King, Lost Sinner, Freja, and I did somehow unlock shrine of winter, and I am also at Dragelic castle. I’m not sure how progression truly works yet in this game but I also have Gutter/Black marsh unlocked as well.

Otherwise, I feel like CSP would be best, as I’ve also heard MSG special attack breaks durability pretty quick but idk if it’s still good considering, but thank you!

[Edgarek]

Escrito originalmente por LLoyd Christmas:

Well I don’t have nearly the Str or Dex to wield the MGS, but I do have 52 Int (57 with the Ring), but I could farm levels.

Speaking of which, could anyone PLEASE tell me of any even decent soul farming areas? The best one I found so far was the doors of pharros bonfire with CoC, and just kill the big dude over and over. It isn’t bad but are there any better ones if I am up to defeating Old Iron King, Lost Sinner, Freja, and I did somehow unlock shrine of winter, and I am also at Dragelic castle. I’m not sure how progression truly works yet in this game but I also have Gutter/Black marsh unlocked as well.

Otherwise, I feel like CSP would be best, as I’ve also heard MSG special attack breaks durability pretty quick but idk if it’s still good considering, but thank you!

You could always respec and relocate your stats where grandma-s at Things Brexit.

The best spot for souls farming is killing King of Giants over and over again. His memory has bonfire ascetic, so you can repeat as many times as you want, if you equip everything on souls gain, its should be easily 400k souls per 5 min cycle.
Those shrines are DLC areas.

MLGS isnt better choise, but its way more fun. Bring repair spell, or buy a ton of repair powder at the ghost in Drangleic castle (i believe 2500 per powder?)

[LLoyd Christmas]

Thank you. I’ll likely just try for both I guess. Does the MLGS’s special ability even come close to Soul/Crystal soul spear or just fun to use?

Really curious on its damage.

[ILikeBigBoats]

Escrito originalmente por Ki$kA:

Moonlight great sword

ALWAYS Moonlight Greatsword. Always.

[LLoyd Christmas]

Tbh I’ve also considered respecing into Hex’s for Dark Orb + the GRS and other stuff. In terms of damage, who wins out with Hexes vs Sorceries?

I’ve heard good stuff with Great Resonant Soul, but do you have to have a lot of souls for it to do good damage? Wondering on the damage between crystal soul spear and great resonant soul.

Thanks

[Paradox]

Escrito originalmente por LLoyd Christmas:

Tbh I’ve also considered respecing into Hex’s for Dark Orb + the GRS and other stuff. In terms of damage, who wins out with Hexes vs Sorceries?

I’ve heard good stuff with Great Resonant Soul, but do you have to have a lot of souls for it to do good damage? Wondering on the damage between crystal soul spear and great resonant soul.

Thanks

For PVE:
Unleash Magic (sorcery) + Climax (hex) is the strongest in the game (5k+ SM each cast).

However, CSS is very strong when it works, as it can hit multiple enemies for a lot of damage each. Of course, there are also enemies highly resistant to magic, especially in the DLC's. Sunlight Spear is very strong and lightning is the least resisted element overall. Great Resonant Soul is kinda meh, it'll almost always work, but it's almost never the best and then there's the 500 SM each cast...

[Edgarek]

Escrito originalmente por LLoyd Christmas:

Tbh I’ve also considered respecing into Hex’s for Dark Orb + the GRS and other stuff. In terms of damage, who wins out with Hexes vs Sorceries?

I’ve heard good stuff with Great Resonant Soul, but do you have to have a lot of souls for it to do good damage? Wondering on the damage between crystal soul spear and great resonant soul.

Thanks

For PvE casting:
Magic > Hexes > Pyromancy > Miracles

Crystal soul spear is the best easily 1.5k dmg and magic overall has better spells in late game, pyromancies is the best as damage support(poison, random projectile without spending lvls into fth/int), Miracles mostly healing and magic barrier with force, hexes either dark orb spam for 400-550 damage or Great Resonant Soul for 800ish, costs 500 souls per cast.
Most hexes are useful only in pvp(weird stat requirements, low uses, unusual spells but less damage then resonant soul spell) or in very niche scenarios, scraps is OP tho.

For weapon damage in base game:
Physical/Lightning > Hexes > Magic > Fire.
In DLC same, except physical now superior to everything, unless you have 50-60 lvls in damage stat and weapon buff, then its should be equal to physical builds.
Fire is unusable in entire DLC and 1 DLC boss has 90% magic resistance. Crystal soul spear for 168 dmg :)))

[LLoyd Christmas]

Interesting thank you.

If one were to try a hex build for PvE, what is the best Staff+Chime for maximum damage? (Sunset staff at 50/50 + chime of want?) I heard 30/30 is the soft cap, just wondering if adding more int+faith would increase it that much more.

From what I’ve read, only some hexes can be cast with a chime?

Really liking sorceries but kind of wanted to give hexes a try with a respec.

[Edgarek]

Escrito originalmente por LLoyd Christmas:

Interesting thank you.

If one were to try a hex build for PvE, what is the best Staff+Chime for maximum damage? (Sunset staff at 50/50 + chime of want?) I heard 30/30 is the soft cap, just wondering if adding more int+faith would increase it that much more.

From what I’ve read, only some hexes can be cast with a chime?

Really liking sorceries but kind of wanted to give hexes a try with a respec.

You pretty much right about it.

I personally prefer Witch staff, since its could cast magic, chime and staff hexes and miracles.

[LLoyd Christmas]

Thank you and thanks all. Loving this game.