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Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 23, 2015 @ 9:43pm

How does Soft-ban work?

Explain please. :P

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Kuroitsune has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 23, 2015 @ 10:03pm

Seems to have two meanings these days.

Either:

1.) You disconnected from Multiplayer too many times, and your character has been banned from co-op and invading, but can still be invaded. Playing the game online is considered being in Multiplayer, regardless if you have any phantoms in your world or not. This can be corrected by a bone of order. You will know if this restriction has been put on you as the game will tell you when you load your character, but only for the first time after the restriction has been placed.

2.) You've been cheating with the Cheat Engine online or altered your stats or soul memory offline, and the server has banned you to the cheater's pool. You can still co-op and invade or be invaded, but only with others that have been banned. You can still see bloodstains, ghosts, bonfire ghosts, and messages from both the normal and banned pools, but you can only interact with the banned pool. You are not told of this, you must contact From to receive confirmation that you have been banned. There is no way to reverse this ban, you can circumvent it using family share.

If a bone of order has not worked, go to the Iron Crap Bridge and look for signs. If it's clear, invade someone and if you can't you are most likely banned. For best confirmation results aside from getting a response from... From, try to connect with a friend under perfect circumstances: No Effigy effect, same SM teir, and Name Engraved ring.

Last edited by Kuroitsune; Jul 23, 2015 @ 10:04pm

Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 23, 2015 @ 10:08pm

WELL I think a friend and I might be banned. We were trying to co-op and he could summon me but I couldn't summon him. And I haven't gotten much attention at the bridge (LITERALLY one guy, and then a dragon today and NOBODY else.). Thanks mate. ;D

Kuroitsune has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 23, 2015 @ 10:13pm

We can test it tomorrow if you wish, I'll be around in twelve hours after work. The fact he can summon you and you ran into two other people it's not for sure you've been banned, could be just too high SM. I have a high SM character to test these things.

Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 23, 2015 @ 10:21pm

Oh well, actually. That was wrong. It used to be like that. He could summon ME, but we couldn't summon our other friend (Him and I mess with Cheat engine sometimes for effigies because ♥♥♥♥ me if I'm grinding for those things.) We can test if you want, but that friend of our's was in the same SM (We had just started the game under new characters.

NerV

Jul 23, 2015 @ 11:20pm

if your around 3 mill i can test it with you but why wold you need to farm effigies? in this version they are handed out like candy with all the npc invasions

Last edited by NerV; Jul 23, 2015 @ 11:21pm

Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 23, 2015 @ 11:35pm

Originally posted by NerV:
if your around 3 mill i can test it with you but why wold you need to farm effigies? in this version they are handed out like candy with all the npc invasions

I hit walls in certain areas of this game (Drangliec Castle, Shrine of Amana, No-man's Wharf and seem to get invaded by ALL the cheese-tactic players in those areas.

Visi

Jul 24, 2015 @ 3:27am

Originally posted by Red Dragon:
Seems to have two meanings these days.

Either:

1.) You disconnected from Multiplayer too many times, and your character has been banned from co-op and invading, but can still be invaded. Playing the game online is considered being in Multiplayer, regardless if you have any phantoms in your world or not. This can be corrected by a bone of order. You will know if this restriction has been put on you as the game will tell you when you load your character, but only for the first time after the restriction has been placed.

2.) You've been cheating with the Cheat Engine online or altered your stats or soul memory offline, and the server has banned you to the cheater's pool. You can still co-op and invade or be invaded, but only with others that have been banned. You can still see bloodstains, ghosts, bonfire ghosts, and messages from both the normal and banned pools, but you can only interact with the banned pool. You are not told of this, you must contact From to receive confirmation that you have been banned. There is no way to reverse this ban, you can circumvent it using family share.

If a bone of order has not worked, go to the Iron Crap Bridge and look for signs. If it's clear, invade someone and if you can't you are most likely banned. For best confirmation results aside from getting a response from... From, try to connect with a friend under perfect circumstances: No Effigy effect, same SM teir, and Name Engraved ring.

The second one is correct. The temporary restrictions placed on people who repeatedly disconnect from multiplayer sessions that can be lifted with a bone of order is not a softban.

Call Sign: Raven has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 24, 2015 @ 7:24am

It feels kinda fluffy.

Deffy

Jul 24, 2015 @ 11:17am

Softban counts for the entire account or just the character? I've been using cheat engine to change my soul memory to be able to play with my friends
Also tried to edit my stats on another character, it bugged and my int went to -6k

Last edited by Deffy; Jul 24, 2015 @ 11:17am

Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 24, 2015 @ 11:41am

Originally posted by Dæffy:
Softban counts for the entire account or just the character? I've been using cheat engine to change my soul memory to be able to play with my friends
Also tried to edit my stats on another character, it bugged and my int went to -6k

I believe it carries across the entire account. That's why you need Family sharing to re-access the main servers.

On a side note; does the Steam Guard activate when you lift the 5.00 Dollar restriction on new accounts?

And another one: if the game detects you just HAVE Cheat Engine on your computer, will soft-ban occur? I don't want to get rid of it because I like making quick PvP characters on the first souls.

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Kuroitsune has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 24, 2015 @ 12:40pm

I did a test once on a dummy test account, having the cheat engine running but NOT hooked into Dark Souls does not send any flags - my other account is still on the normal servers. Only when it, or any program that hooks into the game in memory will trigger a flag, that includes benign things like graphic mods.

Softbans are linked to your steam account, not your save file, which is a massive oversight on From's part. I did my test before the Steam Guard was put into place, but I believe it only blocks posting comments and other community interaction but it does not interfer with online play through games.

Also, I'm home now, if you want to test if you are banned or not let me know.

Last edited by Kuroitsune; Jul 24, 2015 @ 12:40pm

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Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 24, 2015 @ 12:41pm

Originally posted by Red Dragon:
I did a test once on a dummy test account, having the cheat engine running but NOT hooked into Dark Souls does not send any flags - my other account is still on the normal servers. Only when it, or any program that hooks into the game in memory will trigger a flag, that includes benign things like graphic mods.

Softbans are linked to your steam account, not your save file, which is a massive oversight on From's part. I did my test before the Steam Guard was put into place, but I believe it only blocks posting comments and other community interaction but it does not interfer with online play through games.

Also, I'm home now, if you want to test if you are banned or not let me know.

Oh, I'm banned. xD And I was trying to Family share with a dummy account and it said 'Steam guard needs to be activated.' ._.

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Jolly

Jul 24, 2015 @ 1:11pm

hey I don't know if I'm banned or not. Everytime I try to invade anywhere I instantly get the message "Unable to invade worlds". I don't know if this means I'm softbanned or what, but it wasn't like this literally 2 days ago.
I would love if someone could help me figure out if i'm banned or not.

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Hey! It's me, Nana! has DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

Jul 24, 2015 @ 3:14pm

Originally posted by JollyRoger13:
hey I don't know if I'm banned or not. Everytime I try to invade anywhere I instantly get the message "Unable to invade worlds". I don't know if this means I'm softbanned or what, but it wasn't like this literally 2 days ago.
I would love if someone could help me figure out if i'm banned or not.

Go to the Iron keep bridge and see if you get ANY action (That place has activity at ANY SM.)

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