DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

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alexxxispov Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:41am
Best straight sword in game? For Paladin build.
I'm about level 130 and am trying to run a paladin build. I've tried a lot of weapons now but all of the greatswords and ultra greatswords are a bit too hefty and the only moveset I feel comforable is the basic straightsword. Which I have reinforced to the max and infused with lightning and use with sunlight blade. I am working to get the sun blade because of it's better stats. Is there any others I should consider, and what kind of armor should I strive for? Am using the Heide's set with that red dragon skull from the shaded woods guy. Sorry fairly new to the game.
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Redux (Mattotk) Jul 16, 2015 @ 1:04am 
Heide sword infused with faith, and you dont need too much dexterity or strenght, is a good weapon
Nolo Contendere Jul 16, 2015 @ 1:17am 
For performance: Heid knight sword, infused with lightning.

For fashion: Probably a longsword. Leave uninfused if you are only building enough faith for utility, infuse with lightning for high faith.

RE: Sun sword: It's great, but you are much better off leaving it uninfused and pumping str and dex so you can take advantage of the A scaling in both.
mr1029384756 Jul 16, 2015 @ 2:39am 
Get 40/40 or 50/50 STR and DEX, and use the Sun Sword. Buff as necessary but never infuse.
Nolo Contendere Jul 16, 2015 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by mr1029384756:
Get 40/40 or 50/50 STR and DEX, and use the Sun Sword. Buff as necessary but never infuse.

And since you're not infusing, use resins to buff.
mr1029384756 Jul 16, 2015 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Nolo Contendere:
Originally posted by mr1029384756:
Get 40/40 or 50/50 STR and DEX, and use the Sun Sword. Buff as necessary but never infuse.

And since you're not infusing, use resins to buff.

You got it :)
Nolo Contendere Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:11pm 
Further reading of the original post: you could consider the mace for your build. Strike damage is ridiculous in this game and the mace offers great str scaling as is. You might have to get used to the moveset though (but it's pretty easy to get used to).

for fun, once you've gotten the hang of the mace (and, provided that you dont rely on offensive miracles a lot), you could always try the mace of the insolent. it's a mace that also serves as a chime for miracles and chime hexes.
mr1029384756 Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Nolo Contendere:
Further reading of the original post: you could consider the mace for your build. Strike damage is ridiculous in this game and the mace offers great str scaling as is. You might have to get used to the moveset though (but it's pretty easy to get used to).

for fun, once you've gotten the hang of the mace (and, provided that you dont rely on offensive miracles a lot), you could always try the mace of the insolent. it's a mace that also serves as a chime for miracles and chime hexes.

Any weapon/shield catalyst should be used with the utmost of discretion. Because if you don't have 60+ ATN (plus Black Hood and Clear Bluestone+2), and you suck at baiting, you will die often.
Nolo Contendere Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by mr1029384756:
Originally posted by Nolo Contendere:
Further reading of the original post: you could consider the mace for your build. Strike damage is ridiculous in this game and the mace offers great str scaling as is. You might have to get used to the moveset though (but it's pretty easy to get used to).

for fun, once you've gotten the hang of the mace (and, provided that you dont rely on offensive miracles a lot), you could always try the mace of the insolent. it's a mace that also serves as a chime for miracles and chime hexes.

Any weapon/shield catalyst should be used with the utmost of discretion. Because if you don't have 60+ ATN (plus Black Hood and Clear Bluestone+2), and you suck at baiting, you will die often.

This is true, and also why I sugguested avoiding relying on offensive miracles (or hexes) with the mace of the insolent. But oh man, getting a hit with powerstanced maces when buffed with SLB? it's awesome.

And 60+ ATN is really unnecessary, but you DO need the blue clearstone ring.
mr1029384756 Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Nolo Contendere:
Originally posted by mr1029384756:

Any weapon/shield catalyst should be used with the utmost of discretion. Because if you don't have 60+ ATN (plus Black Hood and Clear Bluestone+2), and you suck at baiting, you will die often.

This is true, and also why I sugguested avoiding relying on offensive miracles (or hexes) with the mace of the insolent. But oh man, getting a hit with powerstanced maces when buffed with SLB? it's awesome.

And 60+ ATN is really unnecessary, but you DO need the blue clearstone ring.

Not unnessesary at all. Any spellcaster hoping to use offensive spells in combat needs to make ATN their primary stat. Besides, with 60 ATN, you have 103 Agility, making ADP worthless. At 85 ATN, where I'm at, I can fast sorceries with the Azai staff about as fast as non-caster with a pyro hand.

Its worth the heavy investment, if you are hoping to outfight SL 838s.
Nolo Contendere Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by mr1029384756:

Not unnessesary at all. Any spellcaster hoping to use offensive spells in combat needs to make ATN their primary stat. Besides, with 60 ATN, you have 103 Agility, making ADP worthless. At 85 ATN, where I'm at, I can fast sorceries with the Azai staff about as fast as non-caster with a pyro hand.

Its worth the heavy investment, if you are hoping to outfight SL 838s.

The key part here is "hoping to use offensive spells". With that goal in mind, you're generally better off having a catalyst (staff, flame, or chime) in your off hand and your weapon of choice in the other. The mace of the insolent, even when infused, is so far outclassed by dedicated chimes and hammers that you are better off using it for utility spells. Even lightning infused and buffed with SLB, it's barely on par with the lower end chimes in terms of damage output.
Emmanuel Macaroni Jul 16, 2015 @ 2:46pm 
Drakeblood GS has dat lightning dmg, and has a reasonably fast moveset
Call Sign: Raven Jul 16, 2015 @ 2:48pm 
Try Royal Dirk.
Nolo Contendere Jul 16, 2015 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Elpam Purys:
Try Royal Dirk.

That's not a straightsword? (ok, it does have the moveset of one when one-handed)
Hello darkness Jul 16, 2015 @ 5:32pm 
i'm doing a paladin too! ^^ And it's inspired by Bradley of the old guard, so i use a spear, in this case, a pike. I had a lot of fun with dragonslayer crescend axe, wich has an axe-mace mixed moveset and scales with lightning. I infusse it for more lightning, but i'm not sure if it's worth it.

I also use a lightning halberd and some fire weapons and piromancy for variety and to surprise any invader who think i'm all miracles and lightning.

I really like the moveset of heide sword and i think it could be fun to be umpredictible in pvp, but in pve... it's really more practical the everyday longsword.

I'm keeping my str-dex low (20-18 or maybe i turn it to 20-25), gonna put faith to 50 and invest more in vigor and vitality, since Bradley, my point of refernece, plays a bit tanky, but i'm not developing this build exactly like he is. My build it's overall an adaptation to paladinhood of my previous build, wich was a melee-quality, with lots of experimentation.
Egg Saint Jul 16, 2015 @ 8:06pm 
My character is also a paladin of sorts. I farmed Heide's Tower of Flame until I got the Heide Knight Sword, and used it fully upgraded and lightning infused for almost the entire game. It's probably the best straight sword for faith builds. Its damage is comparable to good faith greatswords when you factor in sunlight blade, a lightning clutch ring, and so on, but with faster attacks and low stamina usage.

When it comes to armor, it really depends on your playstyle. Armor choices in DS2 are somewhat less impactful than in DS1. The most important thing is to have an equip load <=70% to avoid fat rolling. You may also aim for lower values, mainly for increased stamina regeneration. It's completely viable to just choose armor you think looks cool and tinker around with the equip load, for a Fashion Souls experience. The Heide and Insolent sets look great for paladins. If you're using a shield, I'd suggest going for Drakekeeper's Shield or Defender's Shield, two superb medium shields (the former is a little better, but the later is cooler).
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Date Posted: Jul 16, 2015 @ 12:41am
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