Bastard Sword

[76561198120849404]

I've played this game for a while now and just about every build i've played has used in some form or another, the claymore as the main weapon of that build. I'm using it and the bastard, but the claymore is getting boring. Any side weapons to use with the bastard sword. Going for 20 str, 18 dex.

[mortal]

Maybe a Falchion/Scimitar?

[Hey! It's me, Nana!]

Red Rust Scimitar is a personal fave. If you still want a greatsword, try the Key to the Embedded. 220 damage, 150 counter, pretty neat scaling, but can't be upgraded and won't' carry through to the next NG.

[Le Fay]

The Sun sword is my favourite that I'd recommend. If you want something other than greatswords or swords in general, a Heide lance or Greatlance would be a good choice. Add in the Old Leo Ring and it will hit hard.

[76561198120849404]

Okay. Question for all of you. If i choose to use the claymore, what weapon would be a good backup weapon to use with it, at the stats of 20 str and 18 dex? If it helps, i am eventually going to have my character become a hexer.

[Jimbos]

The claymore is an absolute waste for a hex build.

Ideally, for a hex build you want a weapon like the uchigatana, rapier, anything with high counter and really decent reach really. Low stamina consumption, very user friendly to handle, and lower stat reqs. Infuse with dark, use dark weapon on it. Ta da you have a weapon with 150 counter damage that every time it trades, hits for 600-800 damage.

Another option is to chase down a weapon that already has dark damage on it, see if you can use resins on it. If not, infuse dark and use dark weapon for it as well. There are a decent amount of boss weapons that are actually geared towards hexers. Start looking them up on the wiki, look at the reqs, and then decide from there if they match what you want to do.

Claymore and b sword have terrible counter damage, eat alot of stamina, and would only be really ideal for a very early warrior build, or maybe a faith build if infused with lightning. Even then I wouldn't recommend it. Since a few stat points more and you can equip an ultra great sword.

There are only about four great swords in the game I'd actually suggest to anyone that's serious about using them. And they all focus heavily on quality build set ups, except for the drake blood great sword.

[Nolo Contendere]

Цитата допису Jimbos:

The claymore is an absolute waste for a hex build.

Not true. The only weapon that is a waste for any spellcaster that wants an infused weapon so they have a melee option is the Sun sword.

Цитата допису Jimbos:

Ideally, for a hex build you want a weapon like the uchigatana, rapier, anything with high counter and really decent reach really. Low stamina consumption, very user friendly to handle, and lower stat reqs. Infuse with dark, use dark weapon on it. Ta da you have a weapon with 150 counter damage that every time it trades, hits for 600-800 damage.

You could replace "hex build" with literally any other spellcasting build replacing dark with the appropriate element and this statement would still hold true (the numbers may different, but it'll be close enough not to matter).

Цитата допису Jimbos:

Another option is to chase down a weapon that already has dark damage on it, see if you can use resins on it. If not, infuse dark and use dark weapon for it as well. There are a decent amount of boss weapons that are actually geared towards hexers. Start looking them up on the wiki, look at the reqs, and then decide from there if they match what you want to do.

This is actually viable advice. An example of this I would like to point out is the sacred chime hammer.

Цитата допису Jimbos:

Claymore and b sword have terrible counter damage, eat alot of stamina, and would only be really ideal for a very early warrior build, or maybe a faith build if infused with lightning. Even then I wouldn't recommend it. Since a few stat points more and you can equip an ultra great sword.

As a faith build player, I can confirm that the claymore is not special in any way shape or form (other than having a nice moveset). You would have just as much success with a longsword or rapier if you're more comfortable with it's moveset than you are with the claymore's. The ONLY reason I can think of for the claymore becomming ubiquitous with faith players is that it became a nice replacement for the massive nerf the defender's greatsword had. Yes, they have terrible counter damage and you aren't supposed to go for counters with them, you're supposed land several powerful blows to send your opponent reeling whilst retaining some semblance of agility since that's what greatswords are for.

Цитата допису Jimbos:

There are only about four great swords in the game I'd actually suggest to anyone that's serious about using them. And they all focus heavily on quality build set ups, except for the drake blood great sword.

I agree, there aren't that many greatswords out there that are worth using, but aren't all greatswords that aren't the drakeblood greatsword quality weapons?

[Hey! It's me, Nana!]

If you want an Ultra/Greatsword, and be a hexer, try out the Crypt Blacksword. It has the moveset of a Greataxe (Which I fancy pretty nice.), and, if infused with dark, buff with Dark Weapon/Resonant Weapon and it has CRAZY damage. If you want a Strength heavy build, also look into the Sacred Chime Hammer; and powerstance those. Or, if you want, use the MLGS in the main hand and dual-wield the Crypt BSword with that. i did that on a character of mine and thought it was pretty fun. xD (Main-hand MLGS for the laser beam strong attack.)

[76561198120849404]

Have a suggestion: Claymore (Because i like the moveset), and Uchigatana with a 20 str, 20 dex hex build?

[BOYCOTT]

no matter what rpg i play, the motherless sword is always a welcome early game companion.
i hope that never changes too.

[Shedding]

I am assuming bastard is an illegitimate son.

[76561198120849404]

Here are my planned stats for a lvl 150 build
20 VGR
20 END
15 VIT
30 ATN
20 STR
18 DEX
ADP 20
INT 30
FTH 30

So, what would be good to change around to use katanas. Uchigatana is one of the weapons. Any other dex weapon not Chaos Blade. I'm not into the self-damage thing.

[Ian]

Цитата допису ChosenUndead:

Here are my planned stats for a lvl 150 build
20 VGR
20 END
15 VIT
30 ATN
20 STR
18 DEX
ADP 20
INT 30
FTH 30

So, what would be good to change around to use katanas. Uchigatana is one of the weapons. Any other dex weapon not Chaos Blade. I'm not into the self-damage thing.

Lets see,

VGR if you are new to castings having at least 2000hp is a must to make up for mistakes
END 20 + Third Dragon Ring is a really good breaking point for casters
VIT You dont need this unless the armor combo you like to wear requires this
ATN whatever you need to fit all your spells
STR & DEX Minimum to weild your weapons of choice
ADP This one is tricky, the main attribute this stat controls is Agility you NEED at least 100 agility and this attribute is controled by ATN and ADP, going higher than 100 in the SL 150 doesnt pay off good enough
INT & FTH Whatever fits you sir, this will be your main Damage output stats and also those are required to use your spells as well so between 30 and 40 is good

[76561198120849404]

Has anyone used the Mirrah Greatsword for Dex builds?

[Hey! It's me, Nana!]

Цитата допису ChosenUndead:

Has anyone used the Mirrah Greatsword for Dex builds?

I did once, mainly because I love the look of the weapon <3 I was REALLY disappointed when I figured out it was a proper greatsword and wasn't wielded how Luca wielded it. broke my heart </3

[76561198120849404]

Okay, here's my new Dex/Hex build. Shame i'm going to have to kill Lucatiel though...
VGR 20
END 20
VIT 15
ATN 30
STR 16
DEX 25
ADP 17
INT 30
FTH 30

RH Weapons: Mirrah Greatsword, Uchigatana, Hunter's Blackbow
LH Weapons: King's Shield, Black Witch's Staff
Rings: Third Dragon Ring, Bracing Knuckle Ring +2, Chloranthy Ring, Flynn's Ring
Armor: Wanderer Hood, Armor of Aurous, Chaos Gloves, Chaos Boots