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Jeronemia Oct 13, 2015 @ 11:17am
So about no death/no bonfire runs in ng+ and beyond.
Dear peeps,

I just screwed up my no bonfire run today... after getting to the iron bridge and getting enough souls to open the door at the shrine of winter (didn't mind about my deathcount anymore), I decided to kill the old Iron king for some more souls. No problem at all, until happiness took me over. I killed that king, used the primal bonfire to warp back to majula, upgrade and repair my gear and..............

Decided to warp to Mcduff to buy iron arrows, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.....:steamfacepalm:
So, how about your experience with no bonfire/death run fails?
And do you guys have any tips for me if I gonna try it on NG+2?
:steamhappy:
I think I also butchered the grammar there..oh well...
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Fröken Duktig Oct 13, 2015 @ 11:34am 
I've never seriously considered doing no death/bonfire runs because I'm not exactly great at this game, but whenever I start ng+ with a character that has the build I want, the weapon I love and consumables to the brim I try to do my best to not sit down and not die. But there's always something that kills me eventually.
Tip is prepare yourself completly before you start ng+ I guess. Get everything you need and plenty of it. Put some stuff in your itembox just incase.
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Redux (Mattotk) Oct 13, 2015 @ 12:15pm 
Jajaja

In my first no death/bonfire run i died against one pursuer in Lost Bastille but i keep going and when i was in the final, just needed the lord of giant and Nasshandra, i was thinking about Lucatiel :steamfacepalm: because i miss one conversation and i really wanted to complete that quest.

I used alt+enter (didnt know about steam overlay) and sit on a bonfire that was really close to me... and good bye challenge.

Then i started ng+ with same character and could complete both
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bonito flakes Oct 13, 2015 @ 12:17pm 
No bonfire/death run becomes ao freaking easy with SotFS update. For NG+ run, all you need to do in NG is farm a ♥♥♥♥ ton of souls to push your SM to 6m, get 999 poison arrows, go to NG+ then open the shrine of winter by force, go through drangleic to undead crypt, warp back to shaded ruins, go through dragon shrine, come back to kill giant lord, then unlock the final kings door to kill nashandra. Simple. Ive done the run twice.
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Redux (Mattotk) Oct 13, 2015 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Sir Sobleh of Astoru:
No bonfire/death run becomes ao freaking easy with SotFS update. For NG+ run, all you need to do in NG is farm a ♥♥♥♥ ton of souls to push your SM to 6m, get 999 poison arrows, go to NG+ then open the shrine of winter by force, go through drangleic to undead crypt, warp back to shaded ruins, go through dragon shrine, come back to kill giant lord, then unlock the final kings door to kill nashandra. Simple. Ive done the run twice.

Scholar is harder than Ds2, and i didnt that, keep my sm pretty good
Last edited by Redux (Mattotk); Oct 13, 2015 @ 12:30pm
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Jeronemia Oct 13, 2015 @ 12:40pm 
I always thought that you have to farm the souls for the shrine of winter in your current game cycle. Hmm I have sm of 20m. Guess I gonna visit gavlan when I take my shot again.
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Jeronemia Oct 13, 2015 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by Kuri:
I've never seriously considered doing no death/bonfire runs because I'm not exactly great at this game, but whenever I start ng+ with a character that has the build I want, the weapon I love and consumables to the brim I try to do my best to not sit down and not die. But there's always something that kills me eventually.
Tip is prepare yourself completly before you start ng+ I guess. Get everything you need and plenty of it. Put some stuff in your itembox just incase.

Pretty much what I did xD. Try to go for max amount of item. Challenge is nice but the reward is "worth it" I guess xD
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Fröken Duktig Oct 13, 2015 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Degra:
I always thought that you have to farm the souls for the shrine of winter in your current game cycle. Hmm I have sm of 20m. Guess I gonna visit gavlan when I take my shot again.

I think you do, I think what they meant was that you get those consumable souls you can pop when you've reached ng+. Maybe?
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TrueArchery Oct 13, 2015 @ 2:09pm 
The Old Iron King ♥♥♥♥♥♥ my ass 3 times in a row. I glitched in the lava.

The Pursuer in the Lost Bastille killed me once.

Gravity killed me once during the drops down to the Grave of Saints/Gutter. And once in the FofG when I wasn't careful.

I got butchered by some manikins once, too.

I did it on 6th try. I pressed Alt+F4 every time a NPC invaded me, just in case (like the biggest scrub, but the Forlorn can kick your ass quite hard)

No-bonfire-run on 1st try, I didn't make any stupid mistakes.
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Krampus Oct 13, 2015 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Kuri:
Originally posted by Degra:
I always thought that you have to farm the souls for the shrine of winter in your current game cycle. Hmm I have sm of 20m. Guess I gonna visit gavlan when I take my shot again.

I think you do, I think what they meant was that you get those consumable souls you can pop when you've reached ng+. Maybe?

Not sure about it either but if that is the case, you coule farm old iron king for example like 50-60 times. those soul consumables should grant you around 6mil.

Edit: the rotten is probably easier to farm. 1 run = 85k in consumables
Last edited by Krampus; Oct 13, 2015 @ 2:41pm
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xXxJust-DogexXx Oct 13, 2015 @ 8:10pm 
It's easy, I did it without pushing soul. Using primal bonfire, aged feather, homeward bone is permitted. Light only the bonfire in Majula.
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JPMcMillen Oct 13, 2015 @ 10:13pm 
I thought that things like that need to be an selectable option. So if you're trying to do a 'no bonfire' run and try to click on one it either won't let you, or it will remind you and ask if you're absolutely sure you want to do it.

I've played some games where there was an achievement for completing every level with no deaths. The problem was that there was no option to auto-restart if you did die. You would have to escape, select restart, confirm yes that you wanted to restart, then try again.
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Jeronemia Oct 14, 2015 @ 4:38am 
Originally posted by JPMcMillen:
I thought that things like that need to be an selectable option. So if you're trying to do a 'no bonfire' run and try to click on one it either won't let you, or it will remind you and ask if you're absolutely sure you want to do it.

I've played some games where there was an achievement for completing every level with no deaths. The problem was that there was no option to auto-restart if you did die. You would have to escape, select restart, confirm yes that you wanted to restart, then try again.

It would be nice if optional but on the other hand, it kills the challenge a bit by the game itself keeping you save. Ds2 has no achievement for those runs other than the rings of the conquerer and exalted.
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Sir Xorion Oct 14, 2015 @ 7:53pm 
Yeah I've been trying to do a no-death new game run and it's painful... Already have gone through probably 10 different characters, with one making it all the way past the difficult secions in Amana only to die to fricking gravity.


Some tips I would give you for a ng++ no-death/bonfire would be:

Make sure to stock up on lifegems beforehand so you have a means of healing when your estus runs out. Another option is farming Elizabeth Mushrooms as they are far superior to lifegems when you have 2k+ health.

Only fight the bosses that are absolutely necessary to finishing the run. That means no dlc until after the credits are over.

If you're doing both challenge runs at once, I recommend carrying as much repair powder as possible as the durability of your stuff will decrease over time, and it will be your only way of repairing things (apart from intentionally breaking and repairing at blacksmith).

One possible weapon to think about using is the Santier's Spear, as when it breaks it becomes an unbreakable twinblade, and you will not need to worry about repairing it.

If you're planning on doing a run utilizing atunement slots, make sure to have plenty of herbs so you can replenish your spell uses.

I recommend doing this offline, as then you won't have to worry about being killed by a skilled/meta invader.

Finally, don't do anything stupid like thinking "I could totally make that jump", or "Oh look, it's a shiny!", or "I've got enough health for this, no reason to heal right now".

Good Luck with your no death/no bonfire run!
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Ebon Wolf Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:38pm 
The AI in this game is too ganky. It'll be very annoying.
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Tony Two Times Oct 15, 2015 @ 4:23am 
I was so prepared. Fists, vanquishers seal, loads of consumables, 50/50 agi str, armor ready, headed out of things betwixt!

My ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cat pushed the controller out of my hands, Where it landed on my joystick, causing my character to meekly hop into the water.

I have never wanted to strangle a kitten more then at that point......
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