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You have to look for HP or the damage you take.
I believe ascetics don't affect the abyss areas, but I've no proof either.
Also, I wonder: if you get summoned via Red Soapstone and you kill the host, do you get the ascetic?
I've been invading to farm ascetics, but once I get out of the populated SM tier, the Red Soapstone might be useful.
2) you can farm the grey spirits there, with item drop gear they drop them quite frequently.
You can also farm ascetics in aldias keep (2 ascetics per burned ascetic) as a buddy told me.
1) I'm not getting Tokens of Spite. I get 1 effigies and 1 ascetic after killing the host.
2) I know about farming the abyss spirits, but it's more fun to invade, hehe. Also, I have been killing Abyss Spirits in the worlds I invade, but I haven't got them to drop ascetics, I wonder if they do.
Oh, I see. That's great news! Thanks!