Scholar Of The First Sin or Seeker Of Fire

[Dark Lucifer]

Which one do you think is the best?

[AerSilver ♞]

The one which isn't modded and has a bunch of wierd random stuff added to it.
Is there even a doubt?

[lil_menor7]

Scholar, have the most fun solo and with friends, more people online and is way longer

[Dark Lucifer]

Originally posted by AerSilver🗲:

The one which isn't modded and has a bunch of wierd random stuff added to it.
Is there even a doubt?

Because people really hate Scholar Of The First Sin Especially people from doing speed runs

[Needo62]

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

Originally posted by AerSilver🗲:

The one which isn't modded and has a bunch of wierd random stuff added to it.
Is there even a doubt?

Because people really hate Scholar Of The First Sin Especially people from doing speed runs

the only people that hate SOTFS are the ones who played vanilla DS2 originally, scholar added more enemies and made some changes that arent really good, but scholar is the way to go for anything multiplayer as im pretty sure vanilla ds2 got its servers taken down

[Dark Lucifer]

Originally posted by Needo62:

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

Because people really hate Scholar Of The First Sin Especially people from doing speed runs

the only people that hate SOTFS are the ones who played vanilla DS2 originally, scholar added more enemies and made some changes that arent really good, but scholar is the way to go for anything multiplayer as im pretty sure vanilla ds2 got its servers taken down

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

[NisseDood]

Originally posted by Needo62:

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

Because people really hate Scholar Of The First Sin Especially people from doing speed runs

the only people that hate SOTFS are the ones who played vanilla DS2 originally, scholar added more enemies and made some changes that arent really good, but scholar is the way to go for anything multiplayer as im pretty sure vanilla ds2 got its servers taken down

Vanilla servers are still up.
It is just DS PTDE that never got its servers back.

[Voilodion Ghagnasdiak]

Seeker of Fire should be played after Scholar to really appreciate all the changes

[Timbermaw]

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

Originally posted by Needo62:

the only people that hate SOTFS are the ones who played vanilla DS2 originally, scholar added more enemies and made some changes that arent really good, but scholar is the way to go for anything multiplayer as im pretty sure vanilla ds2 got its servers taken down

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

If I am not mistaken SOTFS is regarded as being more challenging with all the added enemies

[Dark Lucifer]

Originally posted by Timbermaw:

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

If I am not mistaken SOTFS is regarded as being more challenging with all the added enemies

Well, I see some people hated it to be honest
https://youtu.be/52KAPy2Onow?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/4YciRWtA5sY?feature=shared

[Needo62]

vanilla is noticeably more of an unfinished game than scholar, areas are more empty and theres less items scattered around, scholar also added the DLC keys (in order to access the DLC areas) throughout the world organically where vanilla just instantly gives them to u after making ur character
scholar is just hated on because in an attempt to make the world less empty they decided to double or triple the amount of enemies in areas and increase their aggro range, aside from that its more of an upgrade than a downgrade, not to mention theres more players in scholar

i played scholar first and after beating all dark souls games went to vanilla to see what its like and it really does just feel unfinished, it was interesting seeing different enemy and item placements but thats about it

[Edgarek]

SotFS of course.

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

Challenging? From what i seen they make already simple ds2 even easier, then before. You can make the same build that deals triple damage compared to original game when health bars stays the same. Oh and they "fixed" tracking on all heavy weapons. You can literally turn 180 degree in a single hit.

[Juri]

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

Originally posted by Needo62:

the only people that hate SOTFS are the ones who played vanilla DS2 originally, scholar added more enemies and made some changes that arent really good, but scholar is the way to go for anything multiplayer as im pretty sure vanilla ds2 got its servers taken down

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

Seeker of fire makes ds2 too easy

[Yozora]

Originally posted by Sir Anool:

Seeker of Fire should be played after Scholar to really appreciate all the changes

Couldn't have said it better myself. You should play SOTFS first then Seeker of Fire for another fresh experience. The mod is meant to throw curve balls at veteran players for as if it was their first playthrough again. Then you can admire the level of appreciation of all the surrounding changes in the mod.

That said if you want a "less" brutal Ds2 experience, I recommend Player Enhancements mod which adjusts gameplay mechanics akin to modern souls games.
https://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls2/mods/1026

Otherwise no mods if you want it to be harder

[Yozora]

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

Originally posted by Needo62:

the only people that hate SOTFS are the ones who played vanilla DS2 originally, scholar added more enemies and made some changes that arent really good, but scholar is the way to go for anything multiplayer as im pretty sure vanilla ds2 got its servers taken down

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

I don't really agree with too much with this statement. Seeker of Fire makes the overall world a bit more forgiving but boss fights a little more challenging and unpredictable at times. However the easier aspect also is a given to the fact that the player has been given overall buffs.

[Yozora]

Originally posted by Edgarek:

SotFS of course.

Originally posted by Dark Lucifer:

And this is why I see people's playing Seeker Of Fire Because feels so much better and more challenging

Challenging? From what i seen they make already simple ds2 even easier, then before. You can make the same build that deals triple damage compared to original game when health bars stays the same. Oh and they "fixed" tracking on all heavy weapons. You can literally turn 180 degree in a single hit.

I wouldn't even call this a fix, more like a preference. I really hate the world "fix" since it feels im anti ds2 but in reality its my favorite game. That being said though, its actually a 360 degree turn on a majority of most of the weapons. I've mentioned this but I made the mod to be a bit more modern with the other games. Giving the player the ability to freely swing wherever direction they want is a win in my book. Preference of course.