Strength pvp build?

[Marooka]

So, I was looking into a hex build last night, and I asked about it here, seems by what people were saying it's not really that viable considering it had nerfs etc, so I've been playing around a little on a new character and been using the persuers greatsword along with a blacksmiths hammer, been having fun with the pve part so far!

What I wanna know is are strength builds good in pvp? I really love the pvp part of this game and am just looking for the right kind of build, I'm a sucker for the big weapons they look mean as s**t.

[AshenHollow]

What kind of weapon are you looking to use?

[Iri]

Is your character female?
Grab yourself a Gyrm Greathammer and become Magical Girl Anvil Smash!
STR weapons in general in PvP will take some getting used to - I can provide a few tips - but are just as viable as DEX/Q (except certain scumbag tactics), and anybody who disagrees will get a headsmush with my Anvil-on-a-Stick.
Also, Giant Dad approves of STR builds.

[Seferofe]

When it comes to UGS you need to do a lot of baiting and predicting. It's how you get most of your hits in PvP. Just remember that 2 handed light and strong attacks can't be parried. There's really not much advice I can give except to just play smart, don't be over aggresive because they might be baiting you into an attack, but don't just sit back and do nothing either.

[Marooka]

Originally posted by The Redeemer:

What kind of weapon are you looking to use?

I'm not quite sure yet, been looking at a few weapons, they all look so nice, the UGS is likely what i'm gonne be looking at although the Gyrm Greathammer looks amazing haha

[Dis-member]

grab a gyrm greathammer and wear full butterfly set. become the tooth fairy. knock those teeth out of peoples faces.
other fun strength weapons(in my opinion) include, in no particular order.
the greatsword
gyrm greataxe
mastodon halberd
mastodon greatsword
fume knight greatsword
orma's and reeve's greatshield (not that great in pvp but hillarious non the less)
stone twinblade
curved nill greatsword (damage scales on what ng you are in)
rampart golem lance (only if you like lances)

[Kalvix]

My advice would be dont... the problem is you end up relying on netcode as the strength weapons are so slow the only way you're ever going to get a hit is if people REALLY screw up their dodge or attacks, or if you just go for mega poise so you can get hit and keep swinging (then stagger them). I've never liked that as a plan though as its not longer skillful combat if your just tanking and spamming attacks (and I don't know if you can get enough poise to do it effectively anyway)

[ุ]

I personally don't like heavy weapons at all.
Sure, they may look bad ass but they're way too slow and way too easy to punish.
I would suggest you the Estoc (fast strength weapon) in combination with a shield for parrying and a shadow dagger (Strength weapon) for riposte / backstabs.

Don't be fooled by the damage numbers of a weapon, keep in mind that the speed of it matters too!

[Iri]

Originally posted by Kalvix:

My advice would be dont... the problem is you end up relying on netcode as the strength weapons are so slow the only way you're ever going to get a hit is if people REALLY screw up their dodge or attacks, or if you just go for mega poise so you can get hit and keep swinging (then stagger them). I've never liked that as a plan though as its not longer skillful combat if your just tanking and spamming attacks (and I don't know if you can get enough poise to do it effectively anyway)

If you're too stoopid to figure yourself out some advanced techniques - yep, you'll only gonna hit people when they really mess up.

Originally posted by Aex3:

I personally don't like heavy weapons at all.
Sure, they may look bad аss but they're way too slow and way too easy to punish.
I would suggest you the Estoc (fast strength weapon) in combination with a shield for parrying and a shadow dagger (Strength weapon) for riposte / backstabs.

Don't be fooled by the damage numbers of a weapon, keep in mind that the speed of it matters too!

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[garjian]

There are STR and DEX weapons in every catagory, except what... Curved Greatswords and Greathammers?

If you mean you want to use slow weapons, the only things I would be wary of are 1-handing Ultra Greatswords against any player who can parry, as even I can parry it on reaction, and to offset your slow weapon with something fast like Caestus, or at least something so that you aren't just rolled on reaction all the time.

[MrRaggaedeman]

Originally posted by Kalvix:

My advice would be dont... the problem is you end up relying on netcode as the strength weapons are so slow the only way you're ever going to get a hit is if people REALLY screw up their dodge or attacks, or if you just go for mega poise so you can get hit and keep swinging (then stagger them). I've never liked that as a plan though as its not longer skillful combat if your just tanking and spamming attacks (and I don't know if you can get enough poise to do it effectively anyway)

This guy is wrong!

Str builds are fun and have a wide range of viable and fun to use weapons. The biggest downside is that you wont hit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you just press R1/RB once you're in range. This will get you backstabbed a lot. This isn't a Dex build after all.
All big weapon are about baiting and exploiting mistakes your opponents make and for that you really have to get used to fight unlocked(imo). Most big weapons have quite large hitboxes on several attacks(the dunk attack of greathammers for example). Best genral advice one can give you is to try being as unpredictable as you can. Of couse having a somewhat faster off hand weapon can help out aswell.

[Iri]

Originally posted by MrRaggaedeman:

Of couse having a somewhat faster off hand weapon can help out aswell.

Please, for the love of Blood God and for the shine of Paleblood Moon, DON'T!
You'll be betraying the whole idea of using a STR weapon and forever marking yourself as a coward.

[Vash]

For pvp my top choices are the butcher's knife and the red rust sword. Second is the greatsword, it's so easy to bait people into it's range. And every attack has a follow up, and there are a lot of tricks you can perform with it. One example is a 2 handed R1 and then they roll behind you to back stab you hit R1 again to slash behind. Basically be creative.

[MrRaggaedeman]

Originally posted by Iris of the White:

Originally posted by MrRaggaedeman:

Of couse having a somewhat faster off hand weapon can help out aswell.

Please, for the love of Blood God and for the shine of Paleblood Moon, DON'T!
You'll be betraying the whole idea of using a STR weapon and forever marking yourself as a coward.

If you go by that logic Str build shouldn't also use buffs and/or any kind of parry tools(excluding superparries ofc).

[Iri]

Originally posted by MrRaggaedeman:

If you go by that logic Str build shouldn't also use buffs and/or any kind of parry tools(excluding superparries ofc).

Buffs are dishonorable in general.
Shields are all right, as the strong man's way to defend against an attack is to block it.
Parry dagger... dunno, if you're not going to use it to poke people - it's fine.
But the main point of using a huge, slow weapon is to be skilled enough to be able to hit people with those slow attacks for MASSIVE DAMAGE. Not to stun them with a rapier and add your heavy hit on top like a 'smart' tryhard.

[MrRaggaedeman]

Oh boy, here we go with "dishonourable" and "man's way" again.
OP asked for tips on how to use a STR-build in PVP. We all gave him some basic advise and I mentioned supplements weapons, because OP himself is using a hammer along with Pursuer UGS (which works pretty good in PvP btw). There are a lot of nice str-based off hand weapons that go pretty well with big weapon, that even includes. OP shouldn't dismiss the idea just because you said that what tryhards do.