Does Pyromancy scale with anything?

[Corinne]

Does it? Specifically if i was to duel the Normal Pyro hand and the Dark Pyro hand.

[Dexter]

read descriptions, it is basics of any Soul game...

[MobiusPizza]

Id does both with faith and Int.
the difference between normal and dark hands, is that dark one is better when you are hollow, but It doesn't worth

[Corinne]

Originally posted by dexter411:

read descriptions, it is basics of any Soul game...

thx... i dont even pick them up on any of my chars so how can i do that until i get them?

[Corinne]

Originally posted by MobiusPizza:

Id does both with faith and Int.
the difference between normal and dark hands, is that dark one is better when you are hollow, but It doesn't worth

THANKS! for real this time.

[Corinne]

Is pyromancy actually fun? because all other forms of magic ive tried have been slow, low damage and rediculouse to comprehend without help. (besides miracles) I dont see how people do so much damage and strtegise properly with magic as you dont have infinite casts and its slow and it does low damage no matter what, so is pyromacy different?

[timmy]

Originally posted by Charleston:

Originally posted by MobiusPizza:

Id does both with faith and Int.
the difference between normal and dark hands, is that dark one is better when you are hollow, but It doesn't worth

THANKS! for real this time.

This is a bit misleading, although yes, the pyro glove does scale with fire (int and fai combined). This scaling only refers to the glove's melee attack; actual pyromancy only scales with the level of the glove (+7 or whatnot).

[Dexter]

Originally posted by Charleston:

Originally posted by dexter411:

read descriptions, it is basics of any Soul game...

thx... i dont even pick them up on any of my chars so how can i do that until i get them?

Usually people pick up item and are like: What are those? You know
Edit: from my experienced You will get the most damage as pure sorc or hexer. Pyro is fun, has a poison mist etc but I found most spells boring. Or You hit and 2 shot someone or You will miss every spell...

[timmy]

Originally posted by dexter411:

Originally posted by Charleston:

thx... i dont even pick them up on any of my chars so how can i do that until i get them?

Usually people pick up item and are like: What are those? You know

WHAT ARE THOSE

[60mph gorilla]

Originally posted by Charleston:

Is pyromancy actually fun? because all other forms of magic ive tried have been slow, low damage and rediculouse to comprehend without help. (besides miracles) I dont see how people do so much damage and strtegise properly with magic as you dont have infinite casts and its slow and it does low damage no matter what, so is pyromacy different?

If you think other spells are slow then prepare to have your head exploded. Pyromancy is probably the slowest casting spells in the game.

[Corinne]

Originally posted by Self Salivating Germ Depository:

Originally posted by Charleston:

Is pyromancy actually fun? because all other forms of magic ive tried have been slow, low damage and rediculouse to comprehend without help. (besides miracles) I dont see how people do so much damage and strtegise properly with magic as you dont have infinite casts and its slow and it does low damage no matter what, so is pyromacy different?

If you think other spells are slow then prepare to have your head exploded. Pyromancy is probably the slowest casting spells in the game.

everything that isnt a straight sword melee attack speed is slow, speed is key when fighting.

[Nelyeth]

Originally posted by timmy:

Originally posted by Charleston:

THANKS! for real this time.

This is a bit misleading, although yes, the pyro glove does scale with fire (int and fai combined). This scaling only refers to the glove's melee attack; actual pyromancy only scales with the level of the glove (+7 or whatnot).

That was true in Dark Souls 1. However, now, your fire damage scale from the stat called "FireBNS", which scales from your FTH+INT. So now, if you want to hit hard with fire, you have to get either int, faith, or both. It scales linearly though, meaning you will get the same damage from 20INT+20FTH and 10INT+30FTH.

[timmy]

Originally posted by Nelyeth:

Originally posted by timmy:

This is a bit misleading, although yes, the pyro glove does scale with fire (int and fai combined). This scaling only refers to the glove's melee attack; actual pyromancy only scales with the level of the glove (+7 or whatnot).

That was true in Dark Souls 1. However, now, your fire damage scale from the stat called "FireBNS", which scales from your FTH+INT. So now, if you want to hit hard with fire, you have to get either int, faith, or both. It scales linearly though, meaning you will get the same damage from 20INT+20FTH and 10INT+30FTH.

Wow, thanks for pointing this out to me. I always assumed it was just the same from ds1. I just checked the wiki and it agrees with you. 400+ hours and I'm still learning lol

EDIT: I already knew and can confirm that fire scaling increases with int and faith added together.

[Corinne]

SO Pyro scales with Faith Int and Hollowing and the more of all that combined the better?

[Nelyeth]

Originally posted by Charleston:

SO Pyro scales with Faith Int and Hollowing and the more of all that combined the better?

The normal pyromancy flame scales with faith+int, the dark one scales with fait+int (although less than the normal one) and hollowing, and has better base damage.

So, basically, you'll do the most damage when fully hollow with the dark pyromancy flame, but the more faith/int you'll get, the more interesting the normal flame will be, since being hollow all the time is a pain, and you'll only get a tiny bit of additional damage at high int/faith.

TL;DR : Get the normal pyromancy flame, it'll save you a ring slot, and being hollow isn't worth doing 50 more damage.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Charleston:

SO Pyro scales with Faith Int and Hollowing and the more of all that combined the better?

no.
The DARK glove scales with hollowing. You have to be fully hollow (50% HP) to make it fully effective. That's why noone uses it, unless together with Forlorn-stuff.