I hear Sacred chime hammer is the most powerful weapon in the game...

[Shadowdrake]

But my Dark Giant's club outdamages it in AR by 34 points, and way outdamages it in actual hits. What is this madness?

[Praetor Invicta]

Originally posted by Vinyltavia:

Originally posted by Hatred's Remorse:

its fun to just follow them around just to ♥♥♥♥ with them.

*HELLO WOOD CARVING INTENSIFIES*
passes you by
*VERY GOOD*
passes by again
*VERY GOOD*
keeps doing this alot
*I'M SORRY*
leaves world
*THANK YOU*

Such a fun troll...

[Praetor Invicta]

Originally posted by Hatred's Remorse:

Originally posted by Vinyltavia:

*HELLO WOOD CARVING INTENSIFIES*
passes you by
*VERY GOOD*
passes by again
*VERY GOOD*
keeps doing this alot
*I'M SORRY*
leaves world
*THANK YOU*

Such a fun troll...

Another fun one is hiding on top of those elevator structures in shulva (the first DLC). I dont think they can activate them, but i only did that like twice before.

[Pyramid Bread]

An hour or so ago I got invaded by a hacker in the forest. Infinite casts of fireball, they ran and insta-healed, then when I got em down to 1hp I hit them and their hp shot back up to 100. So I went down the elevator and remained on the pressure plate. They dropped down, still 100% hp, so I went back up and remained on the plate. They obviously didn't know how to hack flight, so they were stuck down there. About 5 mins passed, then they warped out

XD

[Shadowdrake]

Thanks for the responses guys....

But my question still remains. Which weapon has the potential for higher AR? when I asked strongest I didn't mean best weapon in the game, I'm pro enough to know the best weapon will differ for each person and their playstyles. But, what I'm asking is if with 99 Str, 99 dex, 99 faith, and 99 intelligence, which weapon will end up with higher AR? I'm curious because I heard sacred chime hammer would, but giant club out-AR's it by a lot with 60 str, 16 dex, 21 faith, and 21 int.

[TrueArchery]

Since they've a different moveset the attacks have different multipliers don't they? So it would probably require some testing to look what R1 is actually stronger.

But the wiki says it has highest AR at high Str, Int and Fth. Probably because the Giant Warrior Club has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up scaling after the infusion while the uninfused SCH has still really decent B scalings in both Str and Dark. So while at minimum wielding stats the Dark GWC is stronger, at max stats the SCH is better. That's my guess.

[Shadowdrake]

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

Since they've a different moveset the attacks have different multipliers don't they? So it would probably require some testing to look what R1 is actually stronger.

But the wiki says it has highest AR at high Str, Int and Fth. Probably because the Giant Warrior Club has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up scaling after the infusion while the uninfused SCH has still really decent B scalings in both Str and Dark. So while at minimum wielding stats the Dark GWC is stronger, at max stats the SCH is better. That's my guess.

alright thanks. I'd test it myself but I'd need a like level 300 character :P

[Vinyltavia]

Originally posted by Shadowdrake:

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

Since they've a different moveset the attacks have different multipliers don't they? So it would probably require some testing to look what R1 is actually stronger.

But the wiki says it has highest AR at high Str, Int and Fth. Probably because the Giant Warrior Club has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up scaling after the infusion while the uninfused SCH has still really decent B scalings in both Str and Dark. So while at minimum wielding stats the Dark GWC is stronger, at max stats the SCH is better. That's my guess.

alright thanks. I'd test it myself but I'd need a like level 300 character :P

go with the chime hammer.
Nothing like ringing bells when you bring down Dark Liberty on their fragile bodies.

[Dragalen]

From what I heard, these are the best for each category

Best sorcery catalyst : Magic Staff of Wisdom

Best hex catalysts : Dark Black Witch Staff, Dark Chime of Want, Dark Sunset Staff

Best miracle catalyst : Lightning Dragon Chime

Best greathammer : Dragon Tooth

Best greataxe : Is that a joke? All of them are ♥♥♥♥

Best greatsword : Ruler's Sword

Best ultra greatswords : They're all good

Best halberd : Blue Knight Halberd

Best spear : Santier's Spear

Best lance : Grand Lance, although the weapon type in a whole is op as ♥♥♥♥

Best katanas : Chaos Blade, Blacksteel Katana

Best straight sword : Sun Sword

Best daggers : Retainer's Short Sword, Shadow Dagger

Best twinblade : Red Iron Twinblade

Best curved sword : Red Rust Schimitar, Falchion

Best curved greatsword : Murakumo

Best fist : Bare hands with Vanquishers Seal

Best claw : Claw

Best rapiers : Ice Rapier, Ricard's

Best reaper : Bone Scythe

Best whips : Old Whip, Notched Whip

Best bow : Hunter's Blackbow

Best greatbow : Dragonslayer's

Best crossbows : Sanctum, Sanctum Repeating

Best small shield : Throne Watcher's

Best shield : Royal Kite

Best greatshield : Havel's

.....And I feel like I'm missing something.

[TrueArchery]

Best spear Santier's Spear? Lol no
All Greataxes are ♥♥♥♥? Drakekeepers is really good. You even disregard the fact that 2 ultra greatswords have a greataxe moveset.
Mythas Bentblade sucks. It's outstanding in nothing: crit damage is meh, poison buildup is meh, range is meh, dps is meh. Shadow Dagger or Royal Dirk/Flamestone Dagger are just better.
You also forget about the Warped Sword which owns every other curved sword easily.

Anyways, all that isn't even relevant here. And the Dragontooth is afaik one of the worse greathammers because of scaling.

[Shifty Mario]

Originally posted by Jester Thomas:

da list

No bow, crossbow, greatbow, fist, claw, whip, axe, or reapers. Where did you even get that list? Even the /vg/ list is better than that.

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

And the Dragontooth is afaik one of the worse greathammers because of scaling.

It loses by only a couple of points to others around its weight not counting elementals. The added resist does work well and the greataxe 2HR1 can be a plus to some.

[Vinyltavia]

Originally posted by Jester Thomas:

From what I heard, these are the best for each category

Best sorcery catalyst : Magic Staff of Wisdom

Best hex catalysts : Dark Black Witch Staff, Dark Chime of Want, Dark Sunset Staff

Best miracle catalyst : Lightning Dragon Chime

Best greathammer : Dragon Tooth

Best greataxe : Is that a joke? All of them are ♥♥♥♥

Best greatsword : Ruler's Sword

Best ultra greatswords : They're all good

Best halberd : Blue Knight Halberd

Best spear : Santier's Spear

Best lance : Grand Lance, although the weapon type in a whole is op as ♥♥♥♥

Best katanas : Chaos Blade, Blacksteel Katana

Best straight sword : Sun Sword

Best daggers : Retainer's Short Sword, Shadow Dagger

Best twinblade : Red Iron Twinblade

Best curved sword : Red Rust Schimitar, Falchion

Best curved greatsword : Murakumo

Best fist : Bare hands with Vanquishers Seal

Best claw : Claw

Best rapiers : Ice Rapier, Ricard's

Best reaper : Bone Scythe

Best whips : Old Whip, Notched Whip

Best bow : Hunter's Blackbow

Best greatbow : Dragonslayer's

Best crossbows : Sanctum, Sanctum Repeating

Best small shield : Throne Watcher's

Best shield : Royal Kite

Best greatshield : Havel's

.....And I feel like I'm missing something.

Drakekeeper's Greataxe and The Greataxe itself are both very very good. Giant's axe isn't bad either but it's str requirements up there.

[Fashionbeast]

Originally posted by Jester Thomas:

Best spear : Santier's Spear

Santier's is a lot of things, but not your typical spear. And not the best damage wise.

While i like the Royal Kite Shield with its "Knight classic" look, it is definitly not one of the best shield.
Lellewyn definitly would count, so does the Vendrick's boss soul shield.

[axelmonster]

The giants club I believe has the highest possible AR on paper.
With how weapon buff scaling works though the Sacred chime hammer probably does more damage in the end, with the buff cast on it.
According to this chart though, the Sacred chime hammer with dark has the highest AR:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sUPQ7odhEEFS8xn0T6fyi7by4KYYsxITehkOoyz0ohI/edit#gid=1209442946

[Midnight]

Magic and dark are as viable as any other playstyles, we mostly see them as a complement to mainhand weapon moves.

You can spam r1 with a mage in the same way you can do it with a sword, but you will be rekt.

In any playstyle and against any playstyle, you just need to git gud.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Amor&Psique:

Magic and dark are as viable as any other playstyles, we mostly see them as a complement to mainhand weapon moves.

You can spam r1 with a mage in the same way you can do it with a sword, but you will be rekt.

In any playstyle and against any playstyle, you just need to git gud.

I'm wondering what the context is that made you posting this