It's really wild to me people hate on DS2, but praise Demons Souls

[Dregora]

So i've never gotten into Demons Souls back in the day, my first souls like was as many others, dark souls 1. Played a ton of souls like since then.

However, i've recently gotten a ps5 so I figured, it's time for demons souls!


I could not help but notice the overreliance on very narrow corridors almost constantly with a ton of enemies clamped into it. A ton of ambushes, a ton of enemies all on the same place, etc. The very complaints people gave DS2 ♥♥♥♥ for (aside from the too many bosses but lacking in quality DLC not included)

Honestly? So far, I enjoy Demons Souls less than i've enjoyed dark souls 2, which I liked quite a bit.


Granted i'm not super deep in yet, i've defeated tower knight, the boss before flamelurker (I assume it's flamelurker because of the.. flames going up to it) and now i'm trying to progress in the level that's similar to blight town. But in most levels I felt the exact same way.

[Dylan]

Demon souls is good but not that good Dark souls two is better but really all fromsoft games are good.

[Not Rawr]

Demon souls > Dark souls 1 easily.
It also had a far better blightown style zone. This one actually felt like a town, not just a wall that you can jump down in a single go.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Not Rawr:

Demon souls > Dark souls 1 easily.
It also had a far better blightown style zone. This one actually felt like a town, not just a wall that you can jump down in a single go.

Why do you think it's better overall? Just curious.

[קֶשֶׁת]

I like DS1 and DS3 the way the worlds are constructed, but in dark souls 2 it is just big groups of enemies in small spaces and that is not difficulty. That is actually just abuse to the player because you are just being gang banged in almost every room with no room to roll at all. Blue smelter demon is a perfect example, but there is examples of this in every area. The quests are even more confusing then elden ring and I missed spells items for my build. I actually hate dark souls 2 and I tried to like it, but it's just a bad souls game for too many reason to list. In pvp I always win... which is new for me, but even I will admit I win because of how broken this game is.

[Kyle]

Something about Dark Souls 1 hits the sweet spot of ambiance, difficulty, and character building that make it stand out. The first time through that game was a unique experience that's hard to replicate. After all this time, the overall difficulty has gone down mostly due to gamers having experience with this style of gameplay. It's still an incredible RPG experience that has insane replayability for some.

Dark Souls 2 definitely loses points for it's overall world design. It doesn't flow intuitively like the rest of the series. What it gains in overall gameplay benefits are lost to the rest of the game's design choices. It suffers from odd animation speed variances as well. Some actions are smooth and quick, some feel so clunky and slow. Both from you and the enemies, so it's not all the effects of agility. It's just how they were made. It takes getting used to, for sure. It's not inherently bad by any means, but I can see how people would view it as the low point. One of the games has to be, I suppose. It's so different from the rest, something you might love or hate.

Demon's Souls is a bit bland and it definitely feels like the first game in the series, but it's still got that right feel in terms of world design and gameplay, which is why it is still getting praised to this day. People can see how that game would eventually turn into Dark Souls 1. It's essentially an early version, and some people like seeing that after all these years.

The whole series does lean a bit heavily on cramped spaces and ambushes. It comes and goes with the territory, I learned that after my first souls game. I might not notice it as much since I favor thrusting weapons in pretty much all of them. Either way, it's just something you learn to work around. Always be ready to retreat to a more open area, and then try to use the narrow opening as a chokepoint for the enemies.

[JellyPuff]

Originally posted by Not Rawr:

It also had a far better blightown style zone.

It's the worst in the series imo. The first part is fun, but the 2nd part is just a big poison swamp you don't just walk slow in, but also can't dodgeroll. It's basically like being above 100% equipload through most of the area. The invading phantom with the Meat Cleaver can roll just fine, though. Good for them.

I think most people don't hate on DeS as much, because a lot of them, myself included, played it after getting hooked on soulsgames. I was playing through it with more a tourist's mindset. [Insert Fresh Prince camera-meme] "Oh look, the dragon on the bridge-trope!" *snap*.

[TuskSpin]

Originally posted by NightmareGats:

Originally posted by JellyPuff:

Dude's just trolling. You're correct and it's literally the same codebase just with new and different graphics and audio, even retaining most of the jank and some bugs.

No, i am not. Demakes, Demasters and ♥♥♥♥ like that will never be the same game. They're just cashgrabs for people who complain about "me cant play on old stuff" "me cant play cause thing looks old"

Broke cope

[Nick]

I love both those games! DS2 is number one for me , but demon's is number two.


Bloodborne is third place lol ♥♥♥♥ chalice dungeons