DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin

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Help with the Chancellor
So.. it seems like a dumb question but does Wellager sell wotg if i use ascetics? And if yes which is the bonfire that affects him.
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WickedRequiem Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:30am 
no
Regina Phalange Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by WickedRequiem:
no
:( there must be a way since the girl in majula gets affected by the b
onfire there
WickedRequiem Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:34am 
no


...ok, I've using that word way too much.

There isn't a way, though, which makes getting that spell one of the most time consuming task in the game for the miracle achievement.

On a side note, the Majula bonefire also affect the armor merchant in the village.
Regina Phalange Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by WickedRequiem:
no


...ok, I've using that word way too much.

There isn't a way, though, which makes getting that spell one of the most time consuming task in the game for the miracle achievement.

On a side note, the Majula bonefire also affect the armor merchant in the village.
thanks : ( seems i have to tryhard :/ THis coulda been fine if the servers were up smh..
Enderspoons Jun 26, 2022 @ 10:30am 
The room in which Chancellor Wellager stands (and by extension the patio outside) is one of the only locations in the game that is not affected by Bonfire Ascetics. It's too far away from any other bonfire.
. Jun 26, 2022 @ 10:43am 
levelling up blue sentinels to rank 2 would probably be more or equally as time consuming as getting to ng+2
Last edited by .; Jun 27, 2022 @ 6:19am
Regina Phalange Jun 26, 2022 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Vandher:
levelling up blue sentinels to rank 2 would probably be more or equally as time consuming as getting to ng+3
but i literally -cannot- level up in the covenant it's impossible without the servers
Enderspoons Jun 26, 2022 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Regina Phalange:
Originally posted by Vandher:
levelling up blue sentinels to rank 2 would probably be more or equally as time consuming as getting to ng+3
but i literally -cannot- level up in the covenant it's impossible without the servers
Even if the servers were up, the grind really is just that bad. It would take less time and less effort to beat the game twice and a half over than it would to gain these spells the "normal" way.

To get the Blue Sentinels' miracles for the achievement, you have to win bouts of PVP 500 times, and each attempt eats a consumable you can only get by winning in jolly cooperation.

The Brotherhood of Blood isn't any better: You need to not merely win 500 bouts of PVP, you need 500 NET wins, because each loss counts as a negative point.
Last edited by Enderspoons; Jun 26, 2022 @ 12:01pm
Regina Phalange Jun 26, 2022 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Enderspoons:
Originally posted by Regina Phalange:
but i literally -cannot- level up in the covenant it's impossible without the servers
Even if the servers were up, the grind really is just that bad. It would take less time and less effort to beat the game twice and half.

To get the Blue Sentinels' miracles for the achievement, you have to win bouts of PVP 500 times, and each attempt eats a consumable you can only get by winning in jolly cooperation.

The Brotherhood of Blood isn't any better: You need to not merely win 500 bouts of PVP, you need 500 NET wins, because each loss counts as a negative point.
my eyes are bleeding im screaming and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in my pants rn
Chinese Blin Jun 26, 2022 @ 1:54pm 
Ehh, it's honestly not so bad to go ng+2, the second cycle is probably a lot easier than the first run, the hp+damage boost the mobs get is small and you have all your gear + the knowledge of the zones. These extend to the third cycle to a degree as the hp+damage boost starts to be noticeable in this point but not by that much, could argue the 3th feels pretty close to the first run.
JellyPuff Jun 26, 2022 @ 3:16pm 
Every Dark Souls game requires you to play at least until half-way through NG++ for 100% achievements. You might wanna get used to it.
I mean technically, you can get anything in DS2 on NG, but just look at Enderspoon's post. Even online, going to NG++ for the BoB/BS spells would be infinitely faster. It's the 2nd most ridiculous grind in the entire series. The biggest grind also being in this game: There's a ring you get for killing 1000 hosts and one for killing 1000 player invaders. But you don't need that one for any achievements.

But in DS2, you can actually skip most of the game. Not only can you just walk past most enemies, especially if they're weak to Yearn (which most hollows and beasts are), there's actually an alternative way into Drangleic Castle, that doesn't require all 4 Great Souls, allowing to skip straight into the lategame. The door to Shrine of Winter also opens, if you have aquired a certain number of souls during your current playthrough. 1 million souls + another 1 million for each game-cycle (2M on NG+, 3M on NG++, and so on).
So if you want to speed things up, make sure you have enough Ascetics, go to NG+, jump straight into the Majula Pit, kill The Rotten and keep farming him with Ascetics (2nd Gulch Bonfire) and soul-boosting gear.

Originally posted by Enderspoons:
The room in which Chancellor Wellager stands (and by extension the patio outside) is one of the only locations in the game that is not affected by Bonfire Ascetics. It's too far away from any other bonfire.
The area itself is still affected by the King's Gate bonfire. Same for the perimeter of the entrance to Drangleic Castle. It even closes the gate, so you have to walk from the Ruined Forkroad, if for whatever reason, you want to kill that Crystal Lizard again or have a jab at that overpowered phantom spawning outside the castle at higher bonfire-intensities. It's just that his inventory specifically will never update using Ascetics, unlike with Maughlin.
Backstabba Jun 26, 2022 @ 8:25pm 
Ghost NPC's don't update their inventory outside of a NG+ cycle under most circumstances.

This is normally irrelevant to most NPCs as you really don't have any reason to kill and NPC then revive them.

However since the chancellor starts as a ghost his inventory doesn't update outside of a select few circumstances or NG+.

Such as when you unlock the pre-order weapons if you didn't pre-order.

Edit: Just to avoid any confusion:

When I bring up the pre-order weapon unlock inventory update I meant that solely for the pre-order weapons.

NG+ unlocks are locked for him behind NG+ for him much to everyone chagrin.
Last edited by Backstabba; Jun 27, 2022 @ 1:03am
Regina Phalange Jun 27, 2022 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by JellyPuff:
Every Dark Souls game requires you to play at least until half-way through NG++ for 100% achievements. You might wanna get used to it.
I mean technically, you can get anything in DS2 on NG, but just look at Enderspoon's post. Even online, going to NG++ for the BoB/BS spells would be infinitely faster. It's the 2nd most ridiculous grind in the entire series. The biggest grind also being in this game: There's a ring you get for killing 1000 hosts and one for killing 1000 player invaders. But you don't need that one for any achievements.

But in DS2, you can actually skip most of the game. Not only can you just walk past most enemies, especially if they're weak to Yearn (which most hollows and beasts are), there's actually an alternative way into Drangleic Castle, that doesn't require all 4 Great Souls, allowing to skip straight into the lategame. The door to Shrine of Winter also opens, if you have aquired a certain number of souls during your current playthrough. 1 million souls + another 1 million for each game-cycle (2M on NG+, 3M on NG++, and so on).
So if you want to speed things up, make sure you have enough Ascetics, go to NG+, jump straight into the Majula Pit, kill The Rotten and keep farming him with Ascetics (2nd Gulch Bonfire) and soul-boosting gear.

Originally posted by Enderspoons:
The room in which Chancellor Wellager stands (and by extension the patio outside) is one of the only locations in the game that is not affected by Bonfire Ascetics. It's too far away from any other bonfire.
The area itself is still affected by the King's Gate bonfire. Same for the perimeter of the entrance to Drangleic Castle. It even closes the gate, so you have to walk from the Ruined Forkroad, if for whatever reason, you want to kill that Crystal Lizard again or have a jab at that overpowered phantom spawning outside the castle at higher bonfire-intensities. It's just that his inventory specifically will never update using Ascetics, unlike with Maughlin.
thank you so much !! i knew for the first game that literally 80% of the content is pretty much skippable like the times i was speedrunning the game it usually took me around 20 minutes on my 900 level character but this one seemed hard because ds2 seemed soooo long for me and i couldnt think of an obvious way to skip (such as in the first one u get the thief keys for example) but thank you so much regardless!

Originally posted by Backstabba:
Ghost NPC's don't update their inventory outside of a NG+ cycle under most circumstances.

This is normally irrelevant to most NPCs as you really don't have any reason to kill and NPC then revive them.

However since the chancellor starts as a ghost his inventory doesn't update outside of a select few circumstances or NG+.

Such as when you unlock the pre-order weapons if you didn't pre-order.
I see.. thats .. a burden but i'll do it.. I mean im farming mister MAd Warrior rn for the bell keeper sorcery so..
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Date Posted: Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:27am
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