Which game has the best magic

[Big Bruno]

Ok so while the servers are being fixed, tine for a settlement. Which game has the best magic in terms of controls, usage, damage, or good for builds. Only accurate answers or else you’ll be banished to the Frigid Outskirts. My money is on DS2 but I never played Demon’s Souls so idk. I almost forgot, you can also argue about Bloodborne despite me never touching it ( PLEASE SONY RELEASE IT ON STEAM)

[Clail]

DS2 by far has the most variety and retains usefulness.

I would of liked Sorceries in DS3 if they didn't hit like a wet noodle until endgame.

[Edgarek]

DS1 most powerful one.
DS2 Most variety.
I dont play ds3 too much, but for me at least magic is either expensive in terms of investment, or OP, makes situation similar to ds1 magic.
You not only spend your attunement slots and stat investment into faith/intelligence, but also sacrifice estus for that deal. And every type of magic regeneration its just pathetic or useless to even try out.

Compare to ds2 you have multiple hats for mages, herbs, ability to get +3 slots ring really early in the game and a lot of resources for any type of experiment with weapons.

[Nick]

Demon's souls magic may aswell be spells from ds1. The only few that come to mind are the piercing soul arrow and Ward. That one gives you 70% physical damage reduction. As for miracles, there's actually some fun stuff. Tears of denial actually restores your health to half instead of leaving you at 1. There's also a big AoE miracle that kicks invaders, and lowers their level by 1. Another that fully heals an ally for only 15 fp. Stuff like that.

[Senki]

DS2 has the best magic by far. Never played demon's souls so I can't compare but compared to DSR and DS3 the magic in DS2 is way better and more fun to play with.

DS3 is the worst one and basically only enjoyable if you only start using it in NG+/respec late game

[Call Sign: Raven]

For controls? All of them; the controls haven’t changed since Demon’s Souls.

Damage - Demon’s and Dark Souls. With just a couple items you become insanely overpowered.

DS2 has the most variety, and in my opinion offers the most balanced approach. Miracles really, really suck though.

DS3 is a pyromancers dream, but the rest of the magic is fairly ho-hum and the game itself is dull.

[JellyPuff]

DeS and DS1 for the most OP spell and DS3's spells are the most balanced and interesting ones. BB's "spells" are also strong, but a bit awkward. Not sure, if the hunter-tools even count.

DS2 sits somewhere in the middle. You have pyromancies for great utlity, but fire-damage is commonly resisted (even more at the DLC) and there's no pyromancer starting class with the Pyro Flame being gated behind Flexile Sentry.
Then there are bonkers sorcery and hexes, like "Crystal Soul Spear" (farmable) and "Climax" or utility ones, such as "Dark Fog" or the OP "Yearn"-sorcery. But then there are lackluster miracles overall. Fine for a co-op-centric build (AoE heals/buffs), but undercut by Melentia selling infinite Lifegems and mediocre offensive options until lategame, where you can brute-force a decent amount of casts with more ATTN-slots or Herb-farming.

[Samurai]

You wont get a unbiased opinion asking on a ds2 community ahah
That being said, ds2 is the best

[Edgarek]

Originally posted by Badger:

You wont get a unbiased opinion asking on a ds2 community ahah
That being said, ds2 is the best

If they made it in ds3 magic recovery more constistent and more common, its would be more fun to use it, even on low stat investment. But every mana recovery tool straight up horrible at this or completely useless, making offensive magic useless for majority of people.
15 Mana for critical strikes and ring slot...just why???

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by Badger:

You wont get a unbiased opinion asking on a ds2 community ahah
That being said, ds2 is the best

The least you could do is read the replies. Everyone has been reasonable, thus far.

[Iban The Dude]

DS2 for me, for variety and fun.

And Elden Ring i think it has potencial, we will see.

[Miles (Tails) Prower]

I like DS2 sorceries because you can use binoculars to aim and animations a bit better than DS1. Don't get me wrong, DS1 is also good, because of how good damage you can do, but uses are tightly limited. It's noice that we can have either glitch on PC or items to refill spells in this game.

Pyromancies are quite alright (Pyromancies only runs was cool idea), there are some good offensive and defensive choices. Except some copies of spells are hard to obtain.

Miracles. Only defensive/healing parts are good. The offensive spells are a bit lacking.

Hexes is quite interesting as well. They cost souls, granted, but there are some really strong choices.

[Rosario]

Personally I like 2's system the best. The FP bar in 3 is nice, but it also allows you to just spam the same one or two spells so you may as well only equip those. With 2 You CAN get that same spamability if you have the scrolls for it, or if you're happy to use a bunch of herbs, but you have to work for it more (or hack/exploit I guess). Incense is a bit of a double edged sword, it's nice that you can use certain spells without going over on Int/Fth for a certain desired build without sacrificing a desired spell... But on the other hand you get twinks invading at Heide's Tower, No Man's Wharf, early areas who not only have end game gear, but also spells that will one-shot you at that early stage. I like the idea of the Agape Ring, but it should have also had a minimum Soul Memory range before working. Unpopular opinion I'm sure, at least from the vocal people, but at that level of twinking, may as well just Cheat Engine invincibility too, it's not skill winning invasions or preventing the invaded from losing, anyway I'm digressing. Attunement giving extra casts was just genius, FP in 3 works in essentially the same way, but I already said my drawback on that, and DS1 enough said on Att, it's like 2's but less rewarding because no extra casts, though in 1's defense areas were smaller so you typically had enough casts to begin with. A hex build in 2 is basically also signing up for a 'whatever kind of magic you want' build really, so that's just an extra bonus in 2's favor, though I think we all know that lightning miracles for the most part are just disappointing past first game.

[Jedi]

The game in which the magic is strongest is by far ds1. Magic is really overpowered in ds1. Using spells is easy mode of the game. Spells don't cost stamina and mana on ds1

I love magic class in ds1. Ds2 and ds3 also reduced the power of the magic a lot and this is because of pvp.

[Backstabba]

DS2 has the most SANE magic system in the series with magic stats actually making sense unlike DS1/3.

DS2's casting speed is solely based off of your casting stats: Intelligence/Faith/Attument.

For example in DS3 your casting speed stat is solely based off of dexterity instead of any actual spell casting stat making you use the spell casting speed ring as most builds cant' afford the dex stat cost to not cast slower then a slug stuck in tar.

Or DS1 which has a baffling casting speed system where only dexterity levels 35-45 count for your casting speed stat but only for specific spells.

Also don't get me started on how stupid the magic adjustment/power is in DS1/3 works...

Ps. You could reduce the FP cost of most spells in DS3 by 75% and they'd still be vastly over costed to give you an idea of how bad FP got.

[King Robert Baratheon]

DS2, easily. For every reason everyone else mentioned. I'm too lazy to mention all my reasons why DS2's magic is better and also not being able to play online has me in a bad mood. I REALLY hope Fromsoft fixes this rce exploit thing (if that's even what they're working on) soon. I'm having withdrawal symptoms from being without Dark Souls online play (mainly pvp, but also co-op).