Which is the best starting class for a Pyromancer build?

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Sorcerer, Cleric, or something else?

Sorcerer has the highest starting magic stats, Cleric's second and also has better physical stats (but also has the highest starting level which means upgrades will cost more souls more quickly), and then there's Deprived that starts at level 1 but has all stats at 6.

[coolerkiller]

i believe pyro scales with magic and faith so pick cleric or sorcerer

[Rithm Fluffderg]

引用自 ESL coolerkiller：

i believe pyro scales with magic and faith so pick cleric or sorcerer

intelligence and faith, but yes. Both contribute to it, and it effectively caps at a total score of 60.

I'm probably leaning more towards Sorcerer because of higher attunement in addition to higher intelligence + faith than Cleric's (but only slightly)

Of course, the issue is, I don't know what sort of weapon I would want to wield on this build.

[Scaredy Cat]

引用自 Zachski243：

引用自 ESL coolerkiller：

i believe pyro scales with magic and faith so pick cleric or sorcerer

intelligence and faith, but yes. Both contribute to it, and it effectively caps at a total score of 60.

I'm probably leaning more towards Sorcerer because of higher attunement in addition to higher intelligence + faith than Cleric's (but only slightly)

Of course, the issue is, I don't know what sort of weapon I would want to wield on this build.

If you can get one the possesed armour sword is a good pick. Its a longsword with inate firedamage that can be infused. Cant be buffed as it has a self buff comparable to the watchers and defenders gs. If you can find it or want something else, all the black knight weapons work very well.

[King Robert Baratheon]

I hate that there's not actual pyromancer class in dark souls 2. Sorcerer is the best option imo because you start off with a staff and a decent spell that has 30 casts (and you can get to two attunement stats right away. Then you just buy a second soul spear from Old hag melentia, boom, 60 soul spears). Use that setup and level faith until you unpetrify Rosabeth of Melfia for all that pyromancy goodness.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

引用自 Paladin Jorah (RP)：

I hate that there's not actual pyromancer class in dark souls 2. Sorcerer is the best option imo because you start off with a staff and a decent spell that has 30 casts (and you can get to two attunement stats right away. Then you just buy a second soul spear from Old hag melentia, boom, 60 soul spears). Use that setup and level faith until you unpetrify Rosabeth of Melfia for all that pyromancy goodness.

I might also stop by Felkin for the Chaos Rapier.

But then I might just also stick with the Flame Longsword.

A tough choice...

I agree about the lack of a pyromancer class though. There was really no good reason not to have it, and no good reason to have Explorer.

[TrueArchery]

It depends on what you do NOT need.

Example: You don't plan to use any heavy armor and weapons with low Str-requirements - pick the Swordsman.
You don't use any melee - pick the Sorcerer.
You don't use any Dex-weapons - pick the Cleric.

In general the Sorcerer is probably a good allrounder for Pyromancers, but assuming that you'll go for actual weapons you've to pump lots of points into Str and Dex to even wield the most basic weapons, that can be pretty annoying in the early game.

As soon as you're half an hour into the game the starting class doesn't even matter any longer.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

引用自 TrueArchery：

It depends on what you do NOT need.

Example: You don't plan to use any heavy armor and weapons with low Str-requirements - pick the Swordsman.
You don't use any melee - pick the Sorcerer.
You don't use any Dex-weapons - pick the Cleric.

In general the Sorcerer is probably a good allrounder for Pyromancers, but assuming that you'll go for actual weapons you've to pump lots of points into Str and Dex to even wield the most basic weapons, that can be pretty annoying in the early game.

As soon as you're half an hour into the game the starting class doesn't even matter any longer.

Ehhh I think it matters, mostly because even with a soul vessel, you can't go below your class minimum on stats... or so I've read.

Already using a halberd on one character, a mace on another (with the goal of eventually using the Archdrake mace), dual caestus on another, an archer who has a rapier for her side weapon, and I'm gonna go for the moonlight greatsword on a sorcerer.

The halberd-user and the mace-user are going for heavier armor, the caestus-user going for light armor, and the sorcerer pretty much sticking to cloth.

Pyromancer... hmm... I could go for a quirky weapon like a whip... but then that might not be such a great idea.

Well, I could always go very classic Pyromancer and pick an axe, like the starting weapon of the Pyromancer. Question is, should I go for the hand axe, the battle axe, or the bandit axe?

...Or pump strength up even higher and pick the Black Knight Greataxe?

Or maybe go for an (Ultra) Greatsword? Smelter Sword is a thing...

Ah dang now I'm considering too many options XD

[Scaredy Cat]

引用自 Zachski243：

引用自 TrueArchery：

It depends on what you do NOT need.

Example: You don't plan to use any heavy armor and weapons with low Str-requirements - pick the Swordsman.
You don't use any melee - pick the Sorcerer.
You don't use any Dex-weapons - pick the Cleric.

In general the Sorcerer is probably a good allrounder for Pyromancers, but assuming that you'll go for actual weapons you've to pump lots of points into Str and Dex to even wield the most basic weapons, that can be pretty annoying in the early game.

As soon as you're half an hour into the game the starting class doesn't even matter any longer.

Ehhh I think it matters, mostly because even with a soul vessel, you can't go below your class minimum on stats... or so I've read.

Already using a halberd on one character, a mace on another (with the goal of eventually using the Archdrake mace), dual caestus on another, an archer who has a rapier for her side weapon, and I'm gonna go for the moonlight greatsword on a sorcerer.

The halberd-user and the mace-user are going for heavier armor, the caestus-user going for light armor, and the sorcerer pretty much sticking to cloth.

Pyromancer... hmm... I could go for a quirky weapon like a whip... but then that might not be such a great idea.

Well, I could always go very classic Pyromancer and pick an axe, like the starting weapon of the Pyromancer. Question is, should I go for the hand axe, the battle axe, or the bandit axe?

...Or pump strength up even higher and pick the Black Knight Greataxe?

Or maybe go for an (Ultra) Greatsword? Smelter Sword is a thing...

Ah dang now I'm considering too many options XD

Black knight greataxe damage will be become quite high, even moreso when you buff and infuse it. Down is that it is slow, and requires you to hit the sweetspot for full damage. As such it is not a good weapon as a backup for a caster.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Yeah, you're right. I should probably use a faster weapon. Too bad there's no regular "Black Knight Axe".

EDIT:

OR I could use either the Blacksmith's Hammer or the Craftman's Hammer. It would work thematically, too, because forges and flames, too.

The club looks like it'd be fun because i'd basically be wielding a flaming stick.

[Scaredy Cat]

引用自 Zachski243：

Yeah, you're right. I should probably use a faster weapon. Too bad there's no regular "Black Knight Axe".

EDIT:

OR I could use either the Blacksmith's Hammer or the Craftman's Hammer. It would work thematically, too, because forges and flames, too.

The club looks like it'd be fun because i'd basically be wielding a flaming stick.

Id still go for the possesed armor sword. It looks like youd expect a pyromancy weapon to look. Only downside is that you cant buff it, it can only selfbuff.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

引用自 Scaredy Cat：

引用自 Zachski243：

Yeah, you're right. I should probably use a faster weapon. Too bad there's no regular "Black Knight Axe".

EDIT:

OR I could use either the Blacksmith's Hammer or the Craftman's Hammer. It would work thematically, too, because forges and flames, too.

The club looks like it'd be fun because i'd basically be wielding a flaming stick.

Id still go for the possesed armor sword. It looks like youd expect a pyromancy weapon to look. Only downside is that you cant buff it, it can only selfbuff.

That is definitely a consideration, but a late game one - I'll need something to use in the meantime.

[Scaredy Cat]

引用自 Zachski243：

引用自 Scaredy Cat：

Id still go for the possesed armor sword. It looks like youd expect a pyromancy weapon to look. Only downside is that you cant buff it, it can only selfbuff.

That is definitely a consideration, but a late game one - I'll need something to use in the meantime.

Hmmm, it might be a bit impractical for a caster once again, but a fire infused lost sinners sword would do a hell of a lot of damage. As for smaller weapons... i dont really know anything earlygame that would work well with fire.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Well, preferably something that can be upgraded with regular Titanite instead of Twinkling or Petrified Dragon Bone :P

[Scaredy Cat]

引用自 Zachski243：

Well, preferably something that can be upgraded with regular Titanite instead of Twinkling or Petrified Dragon Bone :P

Pick a weapon with high base damage, crap scaling and infuse it id say =p

So i think a mace of some sort would be a good earlygame weapon.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Hand axe sounds like it fits that bill, actually. At +10, it has decent base damage (270), B scaling in Strength (which reduces to C scaling when infused)...